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  1. CarpeDiem is 100% correct.

    It is not the courts but the government (by way of legislation) that determine which standards and which version of that standard must be complied with. 

    There are hundreds of NZ standards covering all sorts of areas available. Most of those are simply best practice (or perhaps not) but only the standards and the specific version of that standard cited in relevant legislation can be enforced by the courts. 

    As in the example above re marinas there is nothing stopping any organization requiring people to comply with any standard in order to use their private property. The public can then decide whether to comply with that standard or go elsewhere. That is not the same as complying with a specific standard in order to comply with legislation.

    The Building Code cites numerous standards to be used to achieve compliance. This is enforced by the Building Act. Many of these standards are not the latest version (and in some cases are several versions behind). Sometimes this is intentional because the latest standard doesn't achieve the requirements of the Building Code. Sometimes the Building Code simply hasn't caught up. Sometimes standards are modified by adding or removing passages in order to achieve what the Building Code wants. 

    Unfortunately the authors of some the standards in the construction industry at least don't seem to have any interest in working with the legislators in order to ensure revised standards are consistent with the requirements of the Building Code.

    25 years working in building control was a constant battle keeping up with which version of the various standards and trying to explain to designers why they cant use the standard they want to.

    As far as the electrical standards are concerned I have no specific knowledge and cant be bothered trying to find out. However CarpeDiem appears to have done a fair bit of research and I can well believe he is correct that the 2008 standard is the cited version.   

    There is nothing wrong with using the latest version of a cited standard until there is a conflict between the two. Then the cited standard is the one that is enforceable.

     

         

          

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  2. Legionnaires grows between 25 and 45 degrees. In NZ storage hot water cylinders are required to maintain a temperature of 60 degrees to ensure they don't sit in the danger zone.

    I would have thought on a boat not being used the water will be too cold so not a problem then when you heat it you want to make sure the water gets above 60 degrees before you use it.

    What you dont want to do is keep the water just warm as that is prime breeding conditions.

    What I dont know is how long the water should be at 60 degrees to be sure of killing the bug but it probably isnt all that long. Most of the time your water is either going to be too hot or too cold for the bug to breeding. If it does happen to breed every time you heat above 60 degrees you will kill it again. 

  3. What was Party time...now in New Cal? Pink rig and odd 80's graphics

    Slightly stretched Rocket 31 Built in Christchurch possibly by Cooke Brothers in the mid 80s. Always had a pink rig. If the graphics look 80s they are original. Cant believe they have lasted this long.

  4. Well what am I doing wrong? 2 bags of ice barely did for 2 nights

     

    Was everything cold, and where, possible frozen before it was put in the cool box? If not you are wasting all the ice just bringing the temp down

  5. Feet of Clay

    Perhaps

     

    Or perhaps someone with a lifetime of practical experience making an informed decision for himself based on the prevailing circumstances not wanting to be told by some muppet to do something 'just because'.  

  6. So the idiot rule makers have just said that from 1st Jan, all pools, including blow up paddling pools that can be filled to a depth of 400mm or more will have to be fenced.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/87849371/clarity-needed-on-pool-rules-that-take-effect-on-january-1

     

    Nothing new there. That has been the requirement of the Fencing of Swimming Pools Act 1987 since ...well 1987.

     

    To the extent that the requirements to fence private pools have changed with the new legislation from 1 January 2017 overall the requirements have been marginally relaxed rather that increased.   

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