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  1. CarpeDiem is 100% correct.

    It is not the courts but the government (by way of legislation) that determine which standards and which version of that standard must be complied with. 

    There are hundreds of NZ standards covering all sorts of areas available. Most of those are simply best practice (or perhaps not) but only the standards and the specific version of that standard cited in relevant legislation can be enforced by the courts. 

    As in the example above re marinas there is nothing stopping any organization requiring people to comply with any standard in order to use their private property. The public can then decide whether to comply with that standard or go elsewhere. That is not the same as complying with a specific standard in order to comply with legislation.

    The Building Code cites numerous standards to be used to achieve compliance. This is enforced by the Building Act. Many of these standards are not the latest version (and in some cases are several versions behind). Sometimes this is intentional because the latest standard doesn't achieve the requirements of the Building Code. Sometimes the Building Code simply hasn't caught up. Sometimes standards are modified by adding or removing passages in order to achieve what the Building Code wants. 

    Unfortunately the authors of some the standards in the construction industry at least don't seem to have any interest in working with the legislators in order to ensure revised standards are consistent with the requirements of the Building Code.

    25 years working in building control was a constant battle keeping up with which version of the various standards and trying to explain to designers why they cant use the standard they want to.

    As far as the electrical standards are concerned I have no specific knowledge and cant be bothered trying to find out. However CarpeDiem appears to have done a fair bit of research and I can well believe he is correct that the 2008 standard is the cited version.   

    There is nothing wrong with using the latest version of a cited standard until there is a conflict between the two. Then the cited standard is the one that is enforceable.

     

         

          

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  2. Legionnaires grows between 25 and 45 degrees. In NZ storage hot water cylinders are required to maintain a temperature of 60 degrees to ensure they don't sit in the danger zone.

    I would have thought on a boat not being used the water will be too cold so not a problem then when you heat it you want to make sure the water gets above 60 degrees before you use it.

    What you dont want to do is keep the water just warm as that is prime breeding conditions.

    What I dont know is how long the water should be at 60 degrees to be sure of killing the bug but it probably isnt all that long. Most of the time your water is either going to be too hot or too cold for the bug to breeding. If it does happen to breed every time you heat above 60 degrees you will kill it again. 

  3. What was Party time...now in New Cal? Pink rig and odd 80's graphics

    Slightly stretched Rocket 31 Built in Christchurch possibly by Cooke Brothers in the mid 80s. Always had a pink rig. If the graphics look 80s they are original. Cant believe they have lasted this long.

  4. Well what am I doing wrong? 2 bags of ice barely did for 2 nights

     

    Was everything cold, and where, possible frozen before it was put in the cool box? If not you are wasting all the ice just bringing the temp down

  5. Feet of Clay

    Perhaps

     

    Or perhaps someone with a lifetime of practical experience making an informed decision for himself based on the prevailing circumstances not wanting to be told by some muppet to do something 'just because'.  

  6. So the idiot rule makers have just said that from 1st Jan, all pools, including blow up paddling pools that can be filled to a depth of 400mm or more will have to be fenced.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/87849371/clarity-needed-on-pool-rules-that-take-effect-on-january-1

     

    Nothing new there. That has been the requirement of the Fencing of Swimming Pools Act 1987 since ...well 1987.

     

    To the extent that the requirements to fence private pools have changed with the new legislation from 1 January 2017 overall the requirements have been marginally relaxed rather that increased.   

  7. Advocating vehicle trailer is most definitely dangerous and advocating unsafe practises on the roads and you run the risk on doing the clutch with failed brakes on a u turn narrow corner. Dude what are you on? Its a 727. It weighs 1200-1300kg. Probably less and certainly not much more than most of the caravans towed all over NZ every day. Braked trailer no problem.

     

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  8. 12 postings the community: What community. Exactly no one is interested. Question asked and answered.

     

     

    It would probably have to be a custom yacht trailer design. Why? The boat will sit just fine with a couple of lengths of 4 x 2 at the back as a cradle. As I say I did it earlier in the year. Have you ever tried?

     

    Would need a v8 or larger gas gobbling vehicle to tow it. Again why? We did it with a 6 cylinder Holden

     

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  9. What's the problem. Hug the coast 200 meters from shore and anchor each night after a days sail. That's day sailing vessels are all about.  All you need is fuel and vhf and a handheld radio directional finder. Not crossing a bar so no life jackets are required and pencil flares would be sufficient.

     

    Cook with drift wood on beach which keeps the beach clean.

     

    The large chart for NZ and the other free road coastal highway tourist maps They are all free at tourist info centers 

     

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    Well you fill your boots sunshine.

     

    Good luck with that.

     

    The question was asked of the community and the community answered.

     

    And gave a viable alternative option.

     

    The prospect obviously doesn't appeal to anyone here for the reasons stated.

     

    I don't know what you are going on about with your earlier post re airfares. Where are you intending to fly?

     

    Beg, borrow or worst case hire a large car trailer. Drag it to Auckland one day and a tank or so of gas. 

     

    Stay the night on the boat.

     

    Drop the rig and keel the next day pop it on the trailer and off you go. 10 - 12 hours later and a couple of tanks of gas you are home again.

     

    Did it earlier in the year from Auckland to Napier to pick up a Whiting 1/2 tonner. Piece of p@$s

     

    Its a delivery. Why would you want to spend a couple of weeks slogging down the coast at 40-50 miles a day?

     

    If that's want you want to do fine but this is about a request for someone to deliver the boat and requested an idea of cost. Above is the quickest way. The quickest way is usually the cheapest in the long run.   

  10. If the object of the game was to sail a 727 down the coast for the experience then yeah, why the hell not?  Awesome boats!

     

    But, if it's simply a delivery then shipping is the best option.

     

     

    Exactly. You probably could if you wanted to but this is about a delivery. Safest and quickest way is always the best for deliveries. 

     

    Also as in the original post the boat is set up as a day sailor/racer. Lots of safety gear to find.

  11. In actual fact the 727s are great wee boats. Back in the day they were raced around the gulf in 70 knots (anecdotally at least) and they have been raced across the English Channel.

     

    But why would you when you can take it by road in a fraction of the time a lot more safely and probably more cheaply. 

  12. Yes I knew all that. Auckland to wellington is also not the Tasman Sea or Bass Strait.

     

     

     

    So what's your point?

     

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    Exactly so what possible relevance can there be in comparing taking a 1 tonner across the Tasman to taking a 1/4 tonner from Auckland to Wellington?

     

    Answer none what so ever.

  13. Paul whiting sailed smackwater jack, across the Tasman and sailed the SH with IT.

     

    What's the fuel capacity / distance range and motor HP.

     

     

     

     

    Excellent weather January. Probably have to motor all way.

     

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    Yeah Smakwater Jack was a 1 tonner.

     

    Quite a bit bigger than a Farr 727 1/4 tonner.

     

    But then you knew that right?

     

    Oh and Smakwater Jack never made it home.

  14. Now if you really believe in conspiracies you would argue that Coutts bunged Dalts a few to flick Deano so that Coutts could push Dean on the Japs and hey presto we have another team in the AC with someone who at least has some experience driving these things. 

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