Terry B
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Glad you like it!
Closures like these (most cockpit lockers have these?? Mine does)
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If you really want to keep the chain locker the way you have it - couldn't you build a (sort of) dorade box that goes over the top of the winch when your sailing? It just clips on 2 sides to small teak blocks you could epoxy/screw to the deck? With clips the box would be quick to release (rather than bolts etc).
Not really a dorade type, but just a 5 sided box with a base shape that follows the decks contours closely so it's as tight/waterproof as you can get it - could even rubber gasket the bottom edges/lips if need be. But I sense you're just trying to keep the majority of the water out - not every last drop?
The water is coming in through an area on the winch an inch or 2 above the deck - so if you could reduce the water coming in under the 'box' (at deck level) to a trickle, I would think that it wouldn't 'climb' up to the part on the winch that lets the water in?
You could build a 'practice' version out of rubbish leftover wood (from your last project 😃) and just tie it down next time you go to windward in decent weather and see whether it keeps the majority of the water out?
Wouldn't be hard to make the real thing out of teak or ply or even fibreglass?
I'm with the others though re the smell and dampness you're creating down below..............
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I'm not having that problem ATF............all good on my computer.
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Mine has them separate. Less blocks/yokes, less friction. At the spreader attachment, mine are about a metre and a bit apart from each other - can't really see the point in yoking them but others might think differently? Plus, when not deployed and not yoked, they don't add to the tangle slapping the mast at 2am as they're not near the mast.
And I can tighten or loosen each side easily (they can need adjusting a little because they're attached at the spreaders - if you deploy them on a broad reach for instance, then when the boom comes back to the centre when you drop the sail - one side will be taut, the other slightly looser).
But they both tie off together on the same cleat.
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Sorry, here's the file - forgot it needs to be jpeg, not pdf
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Hiya Toltec, enjoying the lockdown? Or as a mate calls it, "The Great Suppression".
My system is very much like this pic attached. And, like Toltec, attached to the spreaders, not the mast at the top end - gives a much better angle for the sail to both fall into and raise out of (if you want to leave the jacks up).
You can add as many extension lines at the boom as you want - depends on the length of boom I guess.
My 'tie off' is on the mast, not the boom - that way it's never covered with a sail when you're trying to get at it.
There's a small and cheap block on the underside of each spreader. Then a block (but you can use frictionless rings now, or no block at all) on the next join down from the spreader. The rest are just lines running through each other.
Best way to set up is to attach the spreader blocks and then tie temporary knots/loops and tie off on boom - and let the main flop into it - you'll soon see what needs adjusting before you set it up properly.
When taking the jacks down, you untie at mast, reach toward stern and grab the nearest lazy line and the whole thing comes forward easily - I lie mine under the s/steel hook thingie that holds the forard reefing lines down. Simply tighten, and get a brew!
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I have a 29 foot yacht. When I bought her she had no lazy jacks. I sail a lot on my own and the sail hanging all over the place when dropping the main was annoying. Not life threatening, just annoying. Difficult to see past/around when going into crowded anchorages.
So I looked on-line and found & made (myself) a simple system that goes forward to the mast once you've tied the sail to the boom.
Had it eight years and I really rate it. Very easy to use and I've yet to have to replace any of the cordage. It means I can tidy up once I'm anchored - not when I'm bouncing around on the deck. I am in my sixties so I'm a little more cautious than I used to be.
And no need to cut holes in the current sail cover - just pull the jacks forward to the mast before putting the cover on.
It's not deployed when pulling up the main (that would be a PTA trying to avoid the fully battened main catching on jacks every metre!)
And the thing is it costs sod all to set up (at least on the 29 footer).
Sooooo, as you can tell, I'm a fan😃
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Had a nice call from Westhaven staff today asking if there was anything they could check on/do on my yacht.
After asking whether they'd mind sanding the brightwork and applying a few coats of varnish (they refused - how rude😀 ) I thanked them for calling.
Nice to know they're still on the ball.
With all due respect, some of you on this thread, and others, seem to have a very jaundiced view of Westhaven staff. I've had a yacht at Westhaven for 15 years and the staff have been nothing but courteous and helpful. If approached properly.
And bear in mind the staff down there are also under pressure at the moment. Maybe a bit of leeway needs to be given, everyone has a rough day every now and then.
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Awesome hours viewing! Thanks for that!
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Just about finished a jump ramp for grandson for practicing trail riding/pushbike jumps on.
Next - finish nesting dinghy I started 10 months ago........
plus I 'inherited' a kitset pram dinghy that's been lying in a garage since 1979!
If you've got any back copies of Sea Spray it's on page 62 of June 1979 edition
A Jim Young design.
Just hope the epoxy supplies last..............
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Hi all, wife and I heading to Europe for a month later this year (start of European summer) and we're thinking of doing some sort of week long cruise on the Croatian coast.
We could go the big liner but would be nice to go on something smaller - maybe 20 or so people?
Not interested in self skippering anything.
Any of you done anything like this up there? Any ideas are appreciated............
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Yep, very weird - the street lights came on in Omaha at 5pm tonight! yellow red haze everywhere up here.
Still, at least we know what it is! Woulda been scary to see it 200 years ago.............
eerie..........
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Hi, there is a weather/boatie vhf channel that is Gt Barrier specific - I can't remember what the channel is but it's a very low number on the dial. It only operates a cuppla times a day for a short period each time. So you need to set your (vodafone powered) phone alarm to those times. It's a volunteer site.
Ask a Barrier local - or 1 of the CREW.ORG members will know more?
The channel is a pay site (I think that's still the case?) - you're supposed to contribute an amount to Barrier Radio when you use the service. Voluntary - but you should (in my opinion) do it.
Re Vodafone - I'm telecom, I bought a $20 SIM card from vodafone before I went to Barrier last time. Told the important people in my life what the new number was so that they could call that when the telecom number didn't work.
Pretty simple - just gotta remember to buy it before leaving the home dock................
Be safe out there.............
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Having been on board a few times and known the owner a bit thru another friend I can tell you there isn't a better example in NZ. Or possibly anywhere.
She is beautiful.
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Canopy & Squab Shop under sails restaurant.
This isn't advice that can help you now but I've found that I need to book marine work in march or april to be done during the winter. Trying to book hard stand, mechanics, painters, anti foul, riggers, sail makers, gas fitters, boat builders, surveyors, etc etc any time after August is a hit & (mostly) miss affair.
So I diary in march each year to look at everything on the boat that might need doing - and book it then.
Then again, Murphy's Law applies, you never know what you might forget or what might go wrong just before summer - I now need a boat builder to do something before Xmas.................
Not a hope in hell.
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Thanks, that's a good idea, I've not tried that technique. Probably what I'll end up doing.
I am just sheathing the outside of a very small dinghy, and a 1270mm wide bit would mean no overlaps.
Hi, I'm building a dinghy as well (at least I was until I buggered my back) and I found that link when I appear to have had the same issue as you. Haven't tried doing it yet - back's still not up to it - but if it's in the West System book of 'how to's' it must be a proven method.
Good luck!
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Hi, not sure what it is you're doing but you can overlap the 2 sheets of glass, epoxy then cut carefully down the middle - see link below. So you end up with a near perfect edge joint between the 2 sheets - and no hassle with all the fairing and filling the seams.
apologies if I'm teaching you to suck eggs (as the old saying goes).
https://www.westsystem.com/instruction-2/epoxy-basics/applying-woven-cloth-tape/
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Got the book last week for my b'day.
Great read. Well worth the dollars (that someone else spent).
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Thanks all. I'll ponder.
I'm not interested in doing anything major myself - can't be bothered at my age. I'm happy doing little projects and keeping the boat varnished etc - but a dirty job like this ain't for me.
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Just read this which I thought was interesting...............if your attention span is that of a 20 year old, it might be a bit long..........
https://www.yachtsurvey.com/BuyingBlisterBoat.htm
Any comments?
And going back to the cost of a full bottom job, the boats probably worth $30-35K as it's in good nick (apart from the obvious!).
Bottom job probably ain't worth it. Just sail on regardless.........
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Hi Wheels, I've just had the bottom professionally anti fouled and I know that I've had blisters before and with each anti foul there's more.
The anti foul guys reckon it's riddled with them - if they did what you say (and what they've done in the past) and
let them dry out and fill with epoxy filler, Epoxy undercoat and your away laughing they say they'd basically be doing half the bottom anyway!
First quote is in at a breath taking $21K including 5 weeks hardstand..........gosh, my wife will be pleased
Supplementary question Mr Speaker - if I do nothing, ignore the problem and sail on regardless - do I eventually sink? seriously, I have no idea what it means to have osmosis.
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Hi all, got the dreaded pox on my 29 foot keeler and need the bottom re-done. I'm in Akl.
Was told Brin Wilson in Gulf Harbour was good - any other options?
Gonna be expensive so I should get a cuppla quotes.............
Ta.
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I don't think he built his for sailing Prince - there's no centreboard case in the pics he put on the thread.
My build is on hold. My back didn't like all the leaning over involved - in bloody agony at the moment. Might have a 'project boat' going on trade me dammit. Old age is a bitch.
Beginners Guide to Boat Building
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Rightio, resurrecting an old thread.
My back is good enough to allow an hour or so of dinghy building each day in lockdown.
I've got to the stage where I'm starting to think about the final painting - maybe 2 weeks away. Subject to being able to get various bits and pieces at level 3 etc, etc.
She's in 2 pieces, joining bolts made and an unbelievable number of building errors also made - first attempt at this and, in my defence, the plans from Bateau (as Abel Seaman said earlier in the thread) aren't for nesting. So a bit of guess work involved.🤔
I've learnt heaps thru this - and I've enjoyed it. I love the building process. I'm already thinking about another dinghy project. But my wife tells me "one at a time".
So anyway, it's a dinghy - not a work of art. So I think enamel single pot - but does it have to be marine??? Waddaya reckin?
I also have some 7 year old, never opened, International Pre-kote and Toplac - might be okay when opened?? Makes a nice liquidy noise when I shake it gently.............
They're only small tins so won't cover anywhere near the project - my gut says dump them and start afresh.......... maybe?
As always - your thoughts are appreciated.............👌