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Hey Tim im not trying to start an argument just trying to see what your thinking is. Thanks for sharing so many photos and so much information its bloody great to see the progress on the Wolf

I didnt intend to offend you its just the first Tri designs that spring to mind that have all three hulls significantly immersed are Pivers and BMWO I have actually performed calculations based on very accurate information, I have the width, length, depth below WL of the main hull, height above WL of the original floats and the weight. The only things I had to take educated guesses on is the height above WL of the new floats and the load immersion of the new floats which is pretty easy to work out unless the float is a really wierd design I cant see which Cats with a similar

looking good. hows progress versus schedule? disregarding the little autoclave disaster...

Hows progress? Send it I think the two 9m tris are having a bit of a comp to see who can build the coolest floats, bit unfortunate they couldn't pool there resources, typical kiwis

Foam is softened with a Infrared heat lamp then bent in , in sheet form. Then sewn in place. I understand this is the way Dragon was done as well as Dirty Deeds. http://www.bobfishermarine.com/Dirty%20 ... 0Pics.html I think DD was vertically stripped. Id be surprised if you could get a whole sheet in there in one hit even with the infrared. maybe you could take a vid for the interested people?

approx 1100 hours so far about and about 25k. it will be finished next year sometime depending on how much time I spend working on the boat vs how much time I spend dithering around mnn good point, guess its twice the number of hours tho... I probably shouldve just used a boat cloth on the outside and nothing on the inside- there will never be any impact its got floats both sides, just a shitload of buckling load from the forestay and mainsheet loads... unsupported area is about 1m by 1m you think 100gsm carbon on nomex would be grunty enough? it is the "work bench" after all....

I didnt think you'd break so easy Rob I thought it would take at least another 4 or 5 posts, I had them all lined up.... just so you know we have far longer and more abusive conversations around here about the Cat vs Tri debate so dont take anything too personally Good to see you've got a sense of humor too, you'l need it in NZ and you certainly showed it at your talk. I think the HarryProa concept and some of your build techniques are very clever, and could certainly give Cats and Tris a run for there money, so let get this thing in the water, Good Luck

Hi Rob I have posted the info you were asking about in my thread. Hope it is of some interest. I wasnt trying to infer I think you'r a f@#$wit in my prevous post, just trying to explain to a bystander why other people do. I have dredged up some info from the thread last year, hope you dont mind. My 1st question is, is there any reason someone couldnt build a Proa with 2x "lee hull" (50ft long) with the rig on stbd hull? keep all the beams, mast hull lamenate hull design etc the same but instead of shunting, tack? on sbdt tack the weight of the rig would give the boat slight

I don't think any of the f8.2's in Auckland, the 3 7.5m tri's or taeping, x factor, sundreamer and more have ever flipped so to say they'l all flip is utter bull sh*t. If this is the first time timberwolf has flipped in 15 or ? However many years she's raced its the exception not the norm. Fact is its a managed risk we take, not something that's sure to happen sooner or later.

If I wrote on forums I was going to build a 15m foiling trimaran that was going to weigh 500kg take 400 hours to build and cost 40k everyone would make fun of me. Then If I kept talking about it a year later and still hadnt done it everyone would probably get a bit personal and tell me to f*ck of and stop talking about it and actually do it. Unfortuanatly Rob D likes talking about his wonderful racing proa idea but will never actually build it or race it- thats why everyone thinks he's such a fuckwit At least im building a boat, and making progress not just talking about- maybe R

I just hope its repairable and doesnt end up in pieces sitting in a boat yard with no work being done on it like Frantic Drift. It certainly makes me feel a bit happier about the air draft restriction I will be complying too. Sing out if you need a hand with anything Tim.

I went to Robs talk, and I have to say full credit for him to have the balls to talk to us when he kind of knew he'd get ripped.......... two questions that need clarification please Rob. I asked "whats a standard lamenate for a 50ft long proa hull?" you replied two layers of 450gram DB glass with some carbon unis running fore and aft. I really wanted to know hoe you get the foam core into the hull after you "torture" the glass into shape, and then with horror realised you dont reinforce it? just 1mm of solid glass for the bottom of the hull with no core or inside laminate? please