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Yes, though only by 15 secs with Sailor Moon
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Well, that's what everyone thought in one of the South Island clubs until someone tried a little entertainment by way of a protest. Suddenly YNZ got richer.
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raz88, if you drop an email to markm@racetrack.org.nz, I'll send you copies of the ORC certs for a couple of 10.5s which includes basic polar info.
No 1050s I'm afraid IT, I've not tried it but in theory for 12 Eur, you can search for an existing 1050 on the WWW.ORC.ORG site under sailor services and use or modify that data to generate a test ORC cert and get polar info off that.
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Correct Womble, no limitations on kite numbers and no requirement to declare use of stored power.
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Guessing it will be Wasabi Smithy, Sayer design 12m and has done the Osaka race if I recall correctly. Water ballasted (or was) and yes, respectably rapid.
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YB I think is missing the PHRF handicaps, so for any silly enough to be interested, my quick calcs using VMG since start would have (name, DTF, est corrected, place):
Giacomo 832.7 04 22:42:52 1
Anarchy 946.8 05 12:16:04 2
Hupane 952.0 05 12:42:14 3
Ran Tan II 923.7 05 12:51:20 4
Cotton Blossom 2 967.3 05 18:26:43 5
Miss Scarlett 929.1 05 19:15:37 6
Shaman 928.8 05 22:45:58 7
Allegro 964.8 05 22:56:56 8
Blink 956.0 06 03:47:42 9
Notorious 986.5 06 04:31:26 10
Crusader 35 970.8 06 14:12:18 11
Itchy Feet 995.6 06 17:19:54 12
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Pogo 30 vs Y11, best guess is the original configuration Y11 would be similar performance, 11s with upgraded keel and mh kites should be a bit quicker to quite a bit quicker for the likes of Fineline.
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if you were mixing monos and multis, then sports boats are probably the best to do it with but the performance variation based on weather will be much more with most multi designs than with monos.
Multi, handicapped to an average, would still end up either first or last depending on weather and wind angle.
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Addem, expect BW would be able to produce the relevant AVS number and any documentation for you.
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From what I can tell from PW, weather will start to be less than optimal perhaps Thursday afternoon, Friday and Saturday cancelled through lack of interest (get very good east through north cover if you're at anchor), possible the puffs will go into the 40s, maybe well into the 40s.
Sunday harder to judge, probably okay but a chance the wind will still be in. Both models agree until Sunday.
Basically find a nice spot by lunch time Thursday and ensure you've enough cold brewskies to last a few days. Stock up on tranquilisers for the kiddywinks.
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First I should apologise. Setting the course and times is very dependent upon the weather and the only thing I'm certain of with the weather is it won't do what I'm guessing.
That said, best guess is a north easterly kicking in later in the afternoon of around 15kts which should be just about perfect for a pre Christmas romp around the buoys with friends. It will be very light earlier so we're hoping that doesn't hang around long.
This year we will have two courses, an 8.9nm course for the slower boats and 11.3nm for the quicker guys.
8.9nm: From the start round Orakei Buoy to port, Rough Rock Buoy to port to the finish.
11.3nm: From the start rounding Orakei to port, Saltworks buoy to port to the finish.
Both the start and finish lines are defined as a line from Westhaven tower to the outer distance mark (ODM).
Note that boats finishing to the north of ODM will be scored DNF.
Start times shall be signalled with number boards on the tower and we will endeavour to broadcast each start time on VHF ch77. We expect to coordinate start times using GPS time so starting on your GPS time should work well.
Be aware people you are sailing under Collregs which do require a higher degree of caution while navigating in close proximity to other vessels. There are also insurance implications so if close to other vessels, throttle back the racing enthusiasm, no one wants a damaged boat just before their Christmas cruise.
Any questions, please email me at mmulcare@xtra.co.nz
Start times, as at 14:00, Tuesday 22 December
8.9nm course :
17:45 Slippery Beaver
17:48 Rock Lobster
17:50 Seakar
17:54 Timeout
17:56 Hyperactive
17:58 Takahoa
17:58 Crocodile
17:58 Double Bruyn
17:59 Cool Change
17:59 Kristina
18:00 Palmyra
18:00 Patiko
18:01 Unitec II
18:03 Space Station
18:03 Scarlet Fever
18:04 Predator
18:04 Heaven And Hell18:04 Sailor Moon
18:05 Clever Choice
18:05 Elliphunk
18:05 Duty Free
18:05 Kia Kaha
18:05 Nomos
18:05 Prince Hal
18:05 Princess
18:07 Shrek's House
18:08 Promise
18:08 The Entertainer
18:08 No Worries
18:09 Pionnier
18:09 Fast Company
18:09 Farrago II
18:10 Namu
18:10 Sparta
18:10 Enigma I
18:10 Team Sex
18:12 Atomic11.2nm course :
17:45 Black Panther
17:49 Extreme
17:48 Valium
17:49 Truxton
17:50 Ma'ara
17:50 Transformer
17:51 Sunfast 3600 Racing
17:55 Force Eleven
17:55 Higher Ground
17:56 Urban Cowboy
17:57 Euphoria
17:57 Plan-B
18:01 Mojo
18:04 Anarchy
18:08 NZL 255
18:08 In Two Deep
18:08 Freedom
18:18 Sundreamer
18:21 Timberwolf
18:28 Taeping -
Entries ast at 15:30, Dec 21 (49 entries)
Sundreamer, really fast cat
The Entertainer, Ross 930
Ma'ara, Dufour 525 Grand Large SS
Black Panther, Schooner 63
Euphoria, GBE
Slippery Beaver, Yachting World Diamond
Freedom, Open 8.5 - GBE
Sparta, KD650
Patiko, Stewart 34
Double Bruyn, Seidelmann 37
Anarchy, YD37
Hyperactive, Elliott 7
Rocklobster, Stratus 747
Truxton, custom gulf cruiser ss
Urban Cowboy, Ross 40
No Worries, Ross 930
Unitec II, Elliot 8.5
Promise, Stewart 34
Sun Fast 3600 Racing, Jeanneau Sun Fast 3600
Valium, Vickers 10.6
Namu, NZ37
SEAKAR, Davidson 28
Plan B, GBE
Team Sex, Magic 25
Enigma, Magic 25
Duty Free, Farr 1220
CLEVER CHOICE, FARR 1020
Transformer, Elliott
Heaven 'n' Hell, Young 88
Extreme, Young Rocket
Cool Change, Ross 850
TAKAHOA, Townson 32
Crocodile, Elliott 770
Timberwolf, Tri
Atomic, Thompson 750
Farrago II, Farr 11.6
Palmyra, Stewart 34
Time Out, Young 88
Force Eleven, K 156
Elliphunk, Elliott 935
Kristina, Young 88
Scarlet Fever, Ross 930
Princess, Stewart 34
Taeping, Catamaran
Shrek's House, Colson 9.7
Pionnier, Stewart 34
In Two Deep, A Class Cat
Predator, Beale 9m
Prince Hal, Stewart 34 -
Now have you on the list Big T, anyone else let's know.
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Is anyone brave enough to run a book?
yes
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Entries as at 16:00, 18 Dec :
Sundreamer, really fast cat
The Entertainer, Ross 930
Ma'ara, Dufour 525 Grand Large SS
Black Panther, Schooner 63
Euphoria, GBE
Slippery Beaver, Yachting World Diamond
Freedom, Open 8.5 - GBE
Sparta, KD650
Patiko, Stewart 34
Double Bruyn, Seidelmann 37
Anarchy, YD37
Hyperactive, Elliott 7
Rocklobster, Stratus 747
Truxton, custom gulf cruiser ss
Urban Cowboy, Ross 40
No Worries, Ross 930
Unitec II, Elliot 8.5
Promise, Stewart 34
Sun Fast 3600 Racing, Jeanneau Sun Fast 3600
Valium, Vickers 10.6
Namu, NZ37
SEAKAR, Davidson 28
Plan B, GBE
Team Sex, Magic 25
Enigma, Magic 25
Duty Free, Farr 1220As noted earlier, if you're not on the list and think you should be, post here or email me at markm@racetrack.org.nz
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updated entry list as at today.
Sundreamer, really fast cat
The Entertainer, Ross 930
Ma'ara, Dufour 525 Grand Large SS
Black Panther, Schooner 63
Euphoria, GBE
Slippery Beaver, Yachting World Diamond
Freedom, Open 8.5 - GBE
Sparta, KD650
Patiko, Stewart 34
Double Bruyn, Seidelmann 37
Anarchy, YD37
Hyperactive, Elliott 7Don't forget, the later your entry, the tougher your handicap
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Still early days for entries, most come in a day or two before.
As below, if you're not on the list and haven't seen an email from me acknowledging your entry, it may well have gone astray so try again or post here.
Sundreamer really fast really big cat
The Entertainer really fast Ross 930
Ma'ara Dufour 525 Grand Large,really large
Black Panther fastest Spencer 63 ever built
Euphoria one of those really fast GBE
Slippery Beaver really fast YW Diamond
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No wonder she's been out of the water for four years, she's terrified, refuses to ever go near the water again.
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Just got confirmation from Westhaven I have a park for the night so BP is in. (note to handicapper - it's a big slow old schooner that sails like a real dog).
We have records,
I couldn't help but notice in the 99 CC, BP thrashed all the Y11s and E1050s, including Force Eleven and the extremely modified Kick, not to mention one or two other well known slowdogs like Positive Touch, Truxton, Valium ..., my goodness it even beat Suburban Reptile
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It can be arranged, we always try to meet competitor expectations.
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Had to smile with the last official finisher with an elapsed time of 28h 29m 59s, one second before cut off.
This year I doubt many boats flagged it due to the time limit but have noticed a couple of years since 2000 where over half the fleet would miss the time limit. That will happen again and I think they'll be some pretty unhappy people when it does.
Have to say if I were racing and unlikely to make the cut off time, I wouldn't keep going for the GPS position scoring approach. Also have to say if I had a boat any slower than an 88, the time limit would really make me think about whether to enter. It's a lot of effort and a chunk of cost with a reasonable probability of not finishing.
Would commend the organisers for the change to the start sequence, that's all plus.
An observation I would have made from this years fleet was the absence of the traditional classes. Open 85s and Ross 930s accepted, don't think any class had more than three entries. Sort of crazy when there's as many E770s as Y11s, 1020s or 88s.
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about 110 - 120% of the length of J (distance from base of forestay to mast), may be a bit less if it's a non overlapping headsail.
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http://www.racetrack.org.nz/class.php?rnk=2&s=1&classid=284
Northern Rebel and La Rochelle are actively racing, not sure if Tour de Force is still around.
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Define massive Elly? My experience is that if it's going up, 0.001 is massive, if it's going down, 0.5 is inconsequential.
Simplified a little, handicap has three parts :
1 part (25%), RaceTrack
1 part (25%), an opinion of the design
1 part (50%), SSANZ race history 2012 onwards.If you have fewer than 5 races previously in SAS, that 50% SAS part is smaller.
After each race, the handicap is reworked.
If a boats handicap comes out changing by more than 0.01 it may be manually assessed (still may change by more of course).
The problem with a series that's only three races long is that if only small changes happen and any handicaps were not spot on to start with, the series is all over after race two and you may as well have not bothered making any changes.
No right answer, there are good reasons to run a series where you make no changes at all and there are good reasons why you should change. It can be though that if you make change but do it in a way that makes them inconsequential, you end up with the worst of both worlds not the best.
Any opinions offered after race 1, well after the race 1 handicaps are known, are treated with the smallest degree of cynicism.
2nd hand yacht prices = ridiculous
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Assuming that's USD, by NZ standards, it's actually pretty expensive and it'd be pretty hard to sell here being an unknown design in the NZ market.