[SSANZ---Safety At Sea Triple Series,2015]

Yes, now splits into short (inshore) and longer (passage) racing only.

 

Some of all you ever wanted to know at :

 

http://www.yachtingnz.org.nz/racing/handicaps-ratings/phrf

[Akld to Tga - November]

fwiw, appreciate Easter isn't working quite as well as the Tauranga fraternity would wish, but two problems I think with November.

 

First which has already been hinted at, being as close as it will be to Coastal Classic, with White Island/Yates/Three Kings/Wellington at a similar time and with the majority of the Gold Cup on pre Christmas, there's just too much coastal racing at that time not to be diluting the fleets. 

 

Second, with no long weekend it's pretty much committing boats to missing prize giving, taking an extra days leave to get the boat back or leaving the boat in Tauranga with the logistics that implies (yes, I know the Tauranga types already have that headache at Easter).

 

Sorry, just don't see it working any better than Easter at the moment.

[The Great Crew.org Boat survey]

I thought the other 242 were too embarrassed to admit they owned power boats?

[Single handed Coastal Classic]

Have a look at Richmond's Route 66 ThinkHappy (March 2015). Not quite as far as CC but it already has a well supported single handed division.

[Who is going to buy our yachts and at what price?]

Think people are underestimating the extent of improvements in design over the past 30 years.

 

Certainly there's some production cruiser/racer imports that look pretty ordinary on the race course but don't assume that's because of the design. Sometimes yes the designs ordinary, sometimes the crew is. Nothing wrong with Zealous / Lawless, Django etc.

 

It's easier to compare the race end simply because there crews were good back when and they are good on the new boats now. At one time the R930 was pretty much it at the race end, now a Melges 32 is the equivalent, the difference is not small. Likewise stepping up in size, pick on the better 38-40s of the late 70s and try comparing to say a MC38.

[Ross 35]

Add Manxman to the RaceTrack list and seem to recall there's another in chch with no rig.

 

Three of them racing yesterday at Richmond

[Westhaven Happenings]

yeah it was a problem twist. Carparks don't clear out fast enough in the evenings to allow crew to find parks in the twilight racing.

 

Weren't Westhaven investigating some sort of plate recognition system which could be used to solve some of this?

[Buying from Far East Sails]

Don't forget GST, think that would bring the cost to a touch over nz$2000.

 

Have to say whilst it wouldn't surprise me that no NZ loft is cheaper, wouldn't have thought they'd be that much more, certainly not double.

[2nd hand yacht prices = ridiculous]

could well be.

 

Sail away price gets more depressing, commonly sails and instruments seem to be excluded which can be another nasty bite.

 

I'm not doing a very good job of talking down the second hand market am I

[2nd hand yacht prices = ridiculous]

Not particularly disagreeing Ac, but from memory a new boat import gets 7% duty, then 15% gst on top of that. That's most of the difference gone in that example before shipping. Very depressing really.

[Pull down stability test]

KM, trigonometry isn't a strong suit which I may well now prove, but to validate an AVS of over 115 degrees in the real world, wouldn't the top of your rig be a few metres under the water and might you need divers?

 

If you only go to 90 or a smidgeon above, aren't you just doing what the calculations do, a simulation with some assumptions?

 

If you do go to 115 or 120, might be best to get MS to drop this thread before you put in the insurance claim, think it may be messy.

[Pull down stability test]

Jono, not sure that's still the case. ORC went up sharply last year, now I think similar or higher than IRC. That said, I don't know how much the alternatives cost so it may still be the cheapest.

[timberwolf]

Something about solo and gusts to 50kts.

Even so, the Wharams were described to me as the H28 of multis, though the person doing the describing did seem to think he might have been a bit unfair to the H28.

[timberwolf]

Is there any that hasn't fallen over?

tl systems and all the wharrams

A wharram flipped about 2 weeks ago up in the Bay, he wasn't racing so I think we'll have to apply Motorboy's rules to cruising as well. Only real question remaining being should the rules also apply to proas?