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To be fair the MNZ guys didn't say they weren't funded properly but said two things:
- They don't do patrols - that is responsibility of Regional councils and Harbour masters which are then ones struggling for money (whangamata has lost its Harbour master for this reason).
- Just like police can't patrol every road all the time no agency can patrol every waterway all the time.
But they did say that their budget was focused on education and compliance and not enforcement.
I can also see how they would view that a learn to sail would fall foul of their rules as they emphasized that the Act applies when there is a payment of any sort for the use of a boat. We all know that this was intended to catch the charter boat world and not learn to sail etc but the law is an ass and they are employed to ride their particular animal.
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Phone went off but message didn't display. Was in the takeaway at the time. About 6 phones went at once.
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Link to the first webinar on Who should pay for marine biosecurity is one Youtube here: I haven't watched it yet.
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Brief report is that it was worth going, at least from my club's perspective (Mt Maunganui). Wasn't anything dramatic presented.
A little of stuff from Maritime NZ on when their rules apply - as we all know registration and safety compliance under their Act doesn't affect pleasure boats, but if you charter (rent) your boat or tender to your club to use in an event it becomes a commercial vessel and subject to their scrutiny, so don't.
Mark Orams was interesting - he's a great speaker, but the best of the day was the lady from Lion Foundation Gaming Trust - a total livewire and keen to give clubs money where they can.
I think the more important thing that came out was the amount of advocacy that YNZ do for boaties, things we don't really give them credit for but costs a lot in legal costs. They had a legal barrister that works with YNZ on things that various councils are trying to do around the country and his comment was similar to what we have heard a lot -in dealing with councils the prevailing view is that yachties/boaties are rich, privileged, don't care and cause most of the water quality issues. He said that we should all be raising objections to plans from regional councils that affect us water users and not rely solely on organisations like YNZ. I agree - we are going to be progressively marginlised if our voice is not heard.
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Is anyone else going?
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I called an 80 yo tenant we have in a flat at sea level. Their plan was "to wait and see what happens"
Fair enough. Of course nothing did happen. So will be harder to get them to take action next time if it looks more real.
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Is anyone planning on participating in the first Good below web webinar this week? I've registered for them but am busy for the first one so hoping that either someone here can report on it or it gets recorded and I'll watch it later (and then report on it here).
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Thanks for that. We'll remember every time we see the pilot passing.
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Im sorry Zoe but Id be very confident that none of the recreational boats in Nz were responsible for bringing Fan Worm or calupera to NZ. And won't bring the sea star. The focus has to be on international shipping.
I agree that we need to take responsibility to stop spread now that it is here but there needs to as much effort in allowing effective control by mandating appropriate antifouls. The current ones aren't really up to it.
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I'd love to see it happen here. Sailing/racing in the Tga Harbour can be hazardous as we can often not distinguish if a boat is anchored in tbe channel or drifting and an anchor rode is hard to distinguish.
It'll never happen of course.
My boat is over 12m so i suppose I should get one.
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Thanks Zoe.
That's interesting that you launched Crew? I enjoy the forum.
My query is to find out who else on Crew reveive the newsletter and will be at the webinar. It's going to be important as the Hoi polloj need to be given a voice. So far it seems that of all the crewers I might be the only one getting it.
I certainly don't want to unsubscribe as we need to know what is happening in this sphere.
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Has anyone else received an email from MarinePests.nz (Good to Go, clean below?)? Apparently they are running seminars on this. I'm not sure I like the sound of the first topic - This might be something Crewers need to be aware of and involved in. I'm not sure how come I am on their mail list and am interested to know how wide this goes (see my earlier post).
You warmly are invited to the Marine Biosecurity Seminar Series organised by the Top of the North Marine Biosecurity Partnership and the Top of the South Marine Biosecurity Partnership.
Who should pay for marine biosecurity?
10am Wednesday 24 May
From visiting ships to cruising yachts and even kayaks, no boat is immune to marine pest infestations. But when it comes to preventing the spread of pests domestically, local boat owners shoulder the burden of checking, cleaning and maintaining their vessels. However, we all benefit from marine pest management and the environmental protection it brings. How should marine biosecurity be funded and what role do the beneficiaries and exacerbators of marine biosecurity effectively play in the big picture?
Thank you to our panelists from: Aquaculture NZ, Kelly Tarlton Marine Wildlife Trust, Yachting New Zealand, Northland Regional Council and the NZ Marina Operators Association.Filling gaps in our clean hull framework
10am Wednesday 31 May
More infrastructure is one part of the solution for boat operators needing maintenance options to maintain great hull hygiene, but there are also other solutions – from new-look facilities, to new and emerging antifoul coating products and antifoul alternatives to solutions for underwater structures, and the role of education in creating a new ‘hull hygiene’ mindset mindset. We hear from a range of experts about their experience, their wins, and their ideas for the future.
Thanks to panelists from: Half Moon Bay Marina and Boatyard, Nelson Marina, Cawthron Institute, Heron Construction, Marine Protection Solutions, Carbotech and the Environmental Protection Authority.Marine biosecurity tools - information and tools for council staff
10am Wednesday 7 June
Surveillance, incursion response, regulations and education: how are the regions working to prevent the spread of marine pests and what is most effective? Hear from experienced practitioners leading the way in this field in the North and South Islands.
Thanks to speakers from: Northland Regional Council, Marlborough District Council and Bay of Plenty Regional Council and the Top of the South Marine Biosecurity Partnership and the Top of the North Marine Biosecurity Partnership. -
20 minutes ago, eruptn said:
The national guidelines is 0.25 hp per foot, so minimum is around 6hp with a bit of safety margin. As mentioned above only long shaft work well on the back of a TY. Props can make a big difference… look for a displacement or sail drive one
Prop makes a huge difference. I changed my yummy to a high thrust and it like a turbo charger.
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My experience with transom mounted outboard is that you will need a Long shaft. Anything else will mean you will be a Fairweather sailor only. The effect of the rise and fall of a boat in a choppy sea on a transom mounted ob means it is a challenge to get a long shaft to bite and a short shaft will be hopeless. You might think it will be OK but the number of times I was caught up Harbour with wind against tide trying to get back to the ramp leaves me in no doubt.
40kgs on the transom is huge for a 20ft boat and will kill performance. You'd really struggle to lift it off the bracket while underway so it'll stay there.
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On 27/04/2023 at 10:45 PM, alibaba said:
And how did you all find your good partners? Word of mouth? advertising - if so where?
They were friends/ sailing buddies from the start. Having an after race drink and thought it'd be worth a try. Lots of years later still happy.
I'm not so sure about strangers though.
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I've been in 3 syndicates and in my 4th.
With careful thought, good knowledge of each other and clear rules it works great.
Our ones have been successful because we have each stated at the start what we want from the ownership and everyone knew up front what to expect from the others.
I think that they don't work when the expectations are that everyone has same motives, inputs and usage.
I'd do it again and am working on being part of another one now.
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I just received an (unsolicited) email from www.marinepests.nz.
Their website says: Clean Below? Good to Go is an education campaign designed to help raise awareness of the role biofouling plays in the spread of marine pests.
It looks like a collaboration of regional councils in the upper north island, DOC and Biosecurity NZ.
The newsletter says that with Pier21 and The Landing closing getting a booking with Tauranga Bridge Marina over winter is a good option. Wow - if every boat in Auckland has to come down to Tauranga we'll need another hardstand.
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Aluminium, powder coated. 1200 w x 1350h.
Pick up in Tauranga.
Any reasonable offer accepted
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On 15/04/2023 at 4:48 AM, Frank said:
It just a perception and I have no data to back this up but at times Crew.org seems progressively more quiet and I suspect there are many who read but never comment. I have seen sites die a slow death as content dried up and users attention drifted elsewhere it would be a shame if that happened here, please post
I agree. But i am much happier with tbe way it is now with small talk and general ranting gone.
Technical and general sailing discussions are what I look for.
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17 hours ago, Jon H said:
Please don’t judge me if this is a naive question but can old diesel be dumped into the tanks at Westhaven that are for disposing of old engine oil?
No.
I understand that among other things they do, Oil recyclers heat oil to separate the water. They hate petrol/diesel in it as it can flash off with the vapours.
Some take the diesel and treat it to be used for heating etc. Id ask or leave it in a marked container by the oil tank.
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I moved a boat from Ak to Tga a few years ago. Had a fairly clean hull and was on Okahu Bay mooring. I didnt clean before leaving and brought a fanworm with me. Got picked up by divers doing hull inspections for regional council. I think They do these regularly.
Difference must be that occasional inspection of marinas in Ak are ineffective as the beasties are everywhere in Ak. The place where diligence is needed is everywhere else.
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There's been a lot of threads on the sire on this topic and they always come back to the compromise of cost/condition and unknowns. Search them and have a read.
Also good to trawl you tube for ideas. There are lots of "I bought a cheap boat and went sailing" channels. They'll give you great insights.
Lastly you've asked what you could get in tbe price range - answer is lots of things. You're best to make a list and go visit some listed in your area. You'll begin to get an idea of the range of size configuration condition of vessels in your price range. Don't be in a hurry. If you have time look at 50 boats before making any decisions.
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On 20/03/2023 at 7:56 PM, Addem said:
So. I just watched a highlights package of the final. Who thinks Phil R went out the boundary on.purpose to make sure he could lay the red pole? He's a very cunning guy. If was intentional it worked a treat.
I'm not alone. MOZZY agrees with me. Both Aussies and Canada might have pushed the boundaries. Good on em.
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YNZ conference this weekend.
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They explained this too albeit generically using The rental of a boat for a single race scenario. They said they could issue a Moss exemption when a club applies and meets the safety plan rules in the same way as they get them for patrol craft. But who would do that for your small learn to sail programme