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Forget the two thousand dollar hammer why don't you pay for the five ships you have built twice!
Note: GAO is the US Govt Accounting Office. their job is to review the billions spent and discover the stupid spending done and by whom.
If you Google GAO and enter any arm of the military in the states you will be astounded at the waste.......
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What GAO Found
For five of the six Navy and Coast Guard ships GAO reviewed, guarantees did not help improve cost or quality outcomes. While the type and terms of each contract determine financial responsibility for correcting defects, the government, in most of the cases GAO examined, paid shipbuilders to repair defects. For the four ships with fixed-price incentive type contracts and guarantee clauses, the government paid the shipbuilder 89 percent of the cost—including profit—to correct these problems. This means the Navy and Coast Guard paid the shipbuilder to build the ship as part of the construction contract, and then paid the same shipbuilder again to repair the ship when defects were discovered after delivery—essentially rewarding the shipbuilder for delivering a ship that needed additional work. Navy officials stated that this approach reduces the overall cost of purchasing ships; however, the Navy has no analysis that proves their point. In contrast, the warranty on another Coast Guard ship—the Fast Response Cutter (FRC)—improved cost and quality by requiring the shipbuilder to pay to repair defects. The Coast Guard paid upfront for the warranty, which amounted to 41 percent of the total defect correction costs. End quote
No wonder they are short cutting proper naval training.
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http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12015856
The offending boat must be pretty damaged hope they catch the moron that did not come back and check the welfare of those on board hope he gets a jail sentence not a slap on the wrist with a wet ticket.
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In my experience MPS stands for Multi Problem Sail
As previously mentioned it does a lot but not very well, much like a sail designed by a committee, if a city council was involved it would be a sea anchor.
I would go with a sail designed to fill a specific wind range or point of sail where the boat is lacking horsepower and not necessarily just racing, if it adds even a knots boatspeed to your point of sail that can mean a lot when cruising depending on where you are going and remembering of course that gentlemen never go to weather.
I do like the ATN snuffers though, good kit and well thought out- designed by a Frenchman living in Ft Lauderdale his name Etienne hence the phonetic brand name.
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Let me see,
Shes for sale for USD 13,959,000 which is reasonably cheap for some thing in this length range, a more recent build in this length will set you back USD 45-55 million.
You can charter her for USD 195,000 per week plus food, booze and fuel, that works out at 16,250.00 per guest (12 Total) plus expenses for a week. Airfares to get to the vessel not included.
To fuel her up requires 220,000 litres, Range 9600 NM @ 10 Knots, given her length and original purpose as a North sea Tug she probably runs bunker fuel.
Parking her just about anywhere at 58 metres is going to cost.
The daily run cost on top of the purchase price will be about USD 30,000 per day for mooring, crew, repairs, insurance etc.
Those sorts of numbers going out makes most accountants get all clammy and want to sit down with a large scotch.
If you have the coin chartering her would make the most sense then you would not have to worry about where to park it or the daily outgoings for that matter.
Perhaps a crew.org give a little page
A nice "little" Carey at just about any price does begin to become attractive, if of course you are seriously considering crossing to the dark side.
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One has to wonder how many of these "prominent Aucklanders" have an "interest" in VHH, or One Market Square-call me a twisted cynic but why else would they fall in behind what is essentially the rich listers VHH option?
Go on Dalts just tell the F wits to make room next to the sticks of dumbarse already up there- surely there will be enough room for a big FU we are off to Italy.
Wished I had time for the popcorn but this dicking around over what has been clearly spelled out is a time sensitive issue has descended into an episode of Keystone Cops with too many barely concealed agendas, no communication with the team that bought the cup back here and the whole thing run locally by incompetent idiots who it appears would be incapable of organizing a piss up in a brewery let alone coordinating an international regatta.
Time for a big stick or two to come out and some idiots told to step into line.
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Bloody nobrains in the Auckland shitty council, Parkers crowd and now Viaduct holdings Jesus h. Christ.
I hope Dalts/ETNZ comes out and says thats it, we will just pack our bags and take the whole thing to Italy because you bureaucrats are getting consumed with empire building and not even extending the Courtesy of consulting us during a process which by the way we signed of on back in February and is that not the only plan going through the resource consent process.
These same idiots only have one job to do, and yet it is clear that that is a big ask, equally Dalts was clear after winning the cup we need this to move quickly or we will pack our bags and go to Italy where the challenger of record has kindly offered to get the job done.
All of these idiots now suddenly have a better idea, 4 different ones being played out in a public form with little or no contact with the sailors that will have to park 75 foot boats in areas designated by council idiots that have not consulted the sailors, I cannot see this ending well.
I think Dalts/ETNZ would be quite right to move camp to Italy given the way the bureaucrats are handling this.
Stupidity seems to be a pre requisite.
Forgive my rant but I cannot believe this small minded BS and I would love to see the grovelling and fawning that would surely occur as Dalts packs his bags and takes his millions elsewhere.
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Anyone do analysis of engine oil samples in Auckland?.
Often used to get a understanding of engines general condition or dependent upon what sort of metal detritus is found in the oil an indication of potential problems forthcoming.
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I am in the market for a new furler, boat 12m sloop rigged, It does not have one.
Harken, Profurl or Furlex or others?
I have experience with Harken and Profurl having assembled and installed them many moons ago but am sure a lot has changed since I was last involved.
Any informed opinions?
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I would not own a boat with a sternleg, simply too much trouble with maintenance etc.
The question is: Why would you make a sternleg out of so many different metals and then immerse it in salt water,
This is borne of first hand experience with a multitude of vessels, I know of 2 vessels that have sunk and several that have come close to it due to poorly designed bits that cannot be easily seen that have corroded.
The most common damage is to lower ends because they protrude down and are unprotected against any impact type damage -once impact damage occurs the seals often fail filling the lower end with saltwater.
Alloy props are less efficient however if they suffer an impact they typically absorb most of the impact and suffer the most damage conversely if you have stainless props they are less forgiving and often transfer the shock load of impact up the drivetrain which rapidly becomes an expensive proposition.
my ten cents worth
Give me a shaft /cutlass protected in large part by a keelson any day
What you sacrifice in boatspeed and yes there is a trade-off, is more than offset by downtime usually at holiday time related to sternleg maintenance.
Do not go near the variant IPS drives unless you love throwing serious coin away, coin I would prefer to spend while enjoying my holidays
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I like multitasking.......
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Damn did not know of that development, another case of a big company absorbing any competition and stuffing a good product to sell only what they offer, sadly seems to be to the modus of a lot these days.
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Great until it gets wet- like going for a swim not spray from travelling fast into the wave in front you
Carbon rigging does not like salt water immersion for any sustained period then you can throw it away.
My vote would be continuous, using dyform wire (roughly 30% stronger than identical diameter 1 X 19 ) and Norseman fittings with dyform cones.
The Norseman fittings cost but save you heaps longer term because after that your rigging costs are simply new wire and new cones each end.
Plus if you have a spare length of wire as long as the longest on board you can replace any length yourself at sea if required and not have to find a cruising destination with a swaging machine.
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Flares
in MarineTalk
Steve,
Policy wording from NZI Marine Pleasurecraft Policy:
Under:
Prevention of loss to your craft
2. the cost of having to replenish, refill or replace safety flares or fire extinguishers that were used
in trying to prevent or minimise a loss that is insured by this policyMost other marine policies have general words to the same effect.
I.E.) if you use them in order to mitigate the loss they will generally be replaced.
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Have used this stuff on a 50 footer that had a sail track that was 30 years old and giving us all sorts of grief, bloody good stuff.
You give them an indication of what you have now for a track profile and they mill the plastic so that you can slide the replacement track up the old one! Mast in situ!
You then change the luff slides to work with the new track and your sail will travel up and down faster than a working girls panties it will take the compressive load of a fully battened main.
https://www.tidesmarine.com/sailtrack
Tides is Florida based but they have a rep in Aussie, just don't mention the cricket
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As I understand it a salvage/treasure hunting outfit "found" the wreck and the Colombian Government cut them out of any deal claiming even a percentage, funny how greedy some get when billions are at stake.
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Mother nature preventing the towing of their launch has a certain amount of irony don't you think.
What idiot thinks its a good idea to test a new boat in 40 knots of breeze and 3 metre swells.
We should just leave them to prove Darwinian theory correct and thin the herd.
Chile is just a few weeks away- did you pack enough crackers honey?
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My Guess he was all stressed out with no one to choke.
However that said his behaviour should not escape consequences.
I for one, am over frickin lawyers saying he's a pillar of society, he did not mean to do this and any consequences will impact his job.
More irritating is that just because he is a doctor he should somehow be immune? to the consequences everyone else would have imposed upon them?
Well if your job is at stake don't do stupid sh*t and you won't suffer the consequences.
Sounds like he has some pretty basic sh*t to get together. Just my opinion
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Hmmm the plot thickens
Didn't Coutts push hard the get Japan involved?
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Agree it may be a big call but reviewing the vid I do not see a boat that should be stepped off of.
Did not look like it was wallowing and full of water and it seems that not all the people were recovered leaving some to navigate home?
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They are jumping off a perfectly good boat.
Awww look, its gotten a tad too wavy and uncomfortable,
I know lets call in the chopper......It looks like a Swan of a generation that were extremely well built, I would take my chances on the Swan thanks.
Kudos however to the chopper pilot- quite the flying when you think of a swimmer hanging off the line with 9m seas rolling through
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Hi All,
I just drove past Little Shoal Bay, and note GBE "Horse" is not floating so well with one hull significantly below her lines she is in close so unlikely to completely go down but she probably needs looked at.
If anyone knows the owner please have him go over to the boat for a squizz.
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Along way from D- Day
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And a 30 year old Farr 1220 is worth 175-200K!!!
the prices of some local boats are no longer realistic especially when the first thing you will need to do is put a new engine in them and second upgrade the sails.There are some great deals offshore even when factoring getting them here and duty, GST. Now where was that lotto ticket.....
Fizz Nasty cuts a boat (almost) in half, carries on.
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Agree these idiots were likely airborne in pretty short order. I would expect obvious damage to the offenders bow, some to the vessels bottom and possibly the outboard.
That said if it was a well built tinnie hitting anything ply at speed it may have left a few scratches.
We could hope the offenders had a Stainless prop because they are strong, however the downside to a stainless prop is if it hits something it usually causes drive train damage which will cost whereas an alloy prop takes the brunt of the impact and typically damage is limited to just the prop and shear pin.
If I was the law down there I would be putting all outboard repairers on notice to report any damage consistent with this sort of event.