Fogg 427 Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 So who's gonna resurrect the thread about all the VOR boats being shite and the state of ocean racing being a mess the race being a sham etc? Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Heres campers video the the arrival and celebration Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Well done camper. You deserve this win. Never seen Chris N smile So much Man that guy is hard on himself but you have to admire his determination Might as well start the speculation then. Will camper keep the same crew for the next Volvo? Will camper sponser another VOR? Will moose re sign with china? It has really ended on a high note. Hope they win the import too Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 So who's gonna resurrect the thread about all the VOR boats being shite and the state of ocean racing being a mess the race being a sham etc?WTF??? What changed late this morning to raise that question or is it in response to having all 6 boats finish a leg or is it just cause the boat you wanted to win the leg did? So it that the Volvo 2012 all done and dusted? Link to post Share on other sites
Fogg 427 Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 I'm just ribbing all the naysayers who a few weeks (or was it months) back were winging about the terrible quality of the boats, the fact they were limping around the course, breaking right-left-and-centre, it was going to have DIRE consequences for the rest of us cos the state of ocean racing was gonna negatively impact on cruising and other everyday boating etc. I was a strong voice saying "You're all talking bollocks, there is nothing to worry about it, it's all part of life's rich pattern, why don't you get on with enjoying sailing etc". I'm just wondering whether the naysayers have changed their POV now the race has finished successfully with no loss of life, no catastrophes and no negative impact on my plans to go sailing this weekend - that I can make out. So, in a word, just stirring, KM. And I genuinely can't remember which side of the of fence you sat on (the idiots & whingers side or on my side)! Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Ah ha, you did have me flummoxed by that post. I'm on the side of the fence where I don't really care about the Volvo that much at all to be honest. No issue with the boats as such, the course as such nor much else as I can see why it's done like it is. To me the current format just lacks the rawness and adventure like qualities it had when it was Whitbread branded. The same thing has happened to many things when the search for coin becomes a huge input into what happens when, how and who with. I keep a passing eye on them when I remember but that's about all. Each to their own so if this floats your boat good, if knot so be it. Link to post Share on other sites
Fogg 427 Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 rawness and adventure Good words. Others, more experienced than me (like Booboo) might comment better but I struggle to think that sailing RTW today is much less of a 'raw adventure' than it ever was. Sure, some of the creature comforts might make it more comfortable (maybe better foul weather gear) but I bet they push harder today than ever before. I reckon one of the key factors to have changed is real-time communication. In the past, when it was long periods of silence from the boats, it created an aura of mystery and wonder about what they were going through and how bad it was. But today when we can see it all on hourly live video feeds it makes it seem better - we can see the guys are alright and we're sitting in the warm comfort of our home, so it just feels better. We might 'oooh' and 'ahhh' for a couple of mins whilst watching some extfreme footage but at the end of the Youtube clip we carry on as normal knowing the boys are doing fine for now. And I reckon that makes US feel less raw adventure because we can see and feel doing OK. But I don't believe it's less of a raw adventure for the boys out there just cos the boats have changed shape a bit. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 No argument the crews were/are/will be on an adventure, none what so ever. Anyone heading off into the deep blue or anything like that is off on an adventure to some degree. But I'm talking from a spectator point of view with this, knot the teams. There is a significant difference. If you take you boat/team related comments out of your post it does appear you get my drift, or pretty close at least. Link to post Share on other sites
Atom Ant 0 Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 I kinda think the race is possibly tougher than it ever was. If you look at old footage of the Whitbread you will see loads of shots of creature comforts, sliding around the deck sitting in a bathtub etc. Remember when Peter Blake shocked the yacht racing world by saying they weren't having heaters in his boat as they took up valuable weight. I think it's tougher now than it has ever been. I was quite convinced at least one of the boats woould sh*t itself out there and the could be loss of life. Glad I was wrong. I struggled to be interested in most of this race, but it certainly finished on a high note. Good on all of the competitors, you're all better and more dedicated sailors than I ever will or care to be. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted July 7, 2012 Share Posted July 7, 2012 Just a reminder that the final inport race to decide who wins the inport series starts at midnight tonight. Link to post Share on other sites
Fogg 427 Posted July 7, 2012 Share Posted July 7, 2012 So overall Camper is the 2nd best inshore boat and the 2nd best offshore boat. A better final outcome than it was looking a few weeks back. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 a little old now but here you go. Well done to Camper for taking second in both the inport series and ocean race A PUMA team decked out in Irish rugby shirts rounded off the Volvo Ocean Race 2011-12 in style on Saturday, securing victory in the In-Port Race series with a win on the waters of Galway on a day that saw Groupama celebrate overall success in sailing's toughest challenge. Ken Read’s team scored a commanding first place in the Discover Ireland In-Port Race, their ninth podium finish of the 10-race inshore series and a first victory. An electrifying scrap for second between CAMPER and Groupama saw the two teams virtually inseparable right to the end of the 8.2-nautical mile course with Chris Nicholson's team stealing the runners-up prize on the day, and in the series as a whole. A last-minute comeback from Telefónica saw them steal the final podium position from Groupama on Saturday, but fourth was enough to give the French team third overall in the inshore series. Abu Dhabi Ocean Racing finished fifth ahead of Team Sanya. “It tastes very sweet,” said PUMA Ocean Racing powered by BERG skipper Ken Read who punched the air in delight as he steered Mar Mostro over the finish line. “To race against the best sailors in the world and come out on top is all we can ask for.” A third place in the inshore series rounded off a fantastic Volvo Ocean Race debut for Franck Cammas' crew on Groupama 4, cementing their reputation as one of the slickest teams in the race in whether racing offshore or around a short course. “For sure it is a big dream – it's a great feeling for everyone,” Cammas said ahead of a special prize-giving which will see him hold up the newly designed Volvo Ocean Race Trophy. “We did not expect it so it's a big surprise, but it's a good one. “I think the secret was that we were outsiders at the beginning and we were forced to learn all the time. We had to learn to race against the best crews in the world and eventually it got easier. We made mistakes at the start but all the time we tried to get better, right until the finish in Galway.” The thousands of spectators who turned out in force to watch the grand finale were treated to a thrilling start, with CAMPER and Abu Dhabi leading through the downwind line as the fleet split towards the first mark in 12 to 16 knots from the north north-west. Both teams picked the right-hand side along with Telefónica, but it was the boats in the other group – PUMA and overall race winners Groupama sailing team – who led round the first mark. A penalty for obstructing Sanya saw Ian Walker's Abu Dhabi Ocean Racing crew relegated to sixth, as PUMA, Groupama and CAMPER with Emirates Team New Zealand fought it out at the head of the fleet. By the fourth mark the PUMA crew had eked out a 26-second lead, challenging Groupama and CAMPER to pull out something special to catch them. Meanwhile Sanya and Telefónica locked horns in pursuit of fourth while Abu Dhabi tried to reduce the huge deficit caused by their penalty. Driven to score their first in-port win, there was no stopping PUMA as a flawless performance saw them extended their lead, holding on to take the win around the 8.2 nautical mile course by one minute and 19 seconds and secure the overall in-port title. CAMPER's second in the inshore series rounded off a successful Volvo Ocean Race campaign which also saw them take second in the overall rankings. “This race is the easiest race in the world to lose,” said skipper Nicholson, “so to be runner up when we've had quite a few troubles on the way is great. We've shown a lot of character along the way.” The 2011-12 edition was always tipped to be the closest edition in 39 years of the event and it didn't disappoint. Groupama, the first French team to compete since Eric Tabarly's La Poste crew in 1993-94, finally secured victory with a second-place finish in Leg 9 from Lorient to Galway. Telefónica, led by Spanish Olympic gold medallist Iker Martínez, won the first three legs but a string of disappointing results saw them finish in fourth overall. The next edition of the race will start in 2014 and will be raced in 65ft one-design boats from Farr Yacht Design. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted July 10, 2012 Share Posted July 10, 2012 Heres a video that might interest some Link to post Share on other sites
Bakunin 0 Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Found this iv w/ Nico. Funny accent. http://soundcloud.com/anarchychallenge/ ... ent-120628 Link to post Share on other sites
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