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  1. There are wooden boats, and there are wooden boats.

    Much the same as there are European production boats, and there are European production boats.

     

    For wooden boats, the appropriateness comes from the construction method, not the fact that it is wood. Triple diagonal kauri with a glass skin - top shelf, I'd have no problem with that. But then we own a double diagonal kauri with glass skin :-)

    Also considering the strength of the build as well (scantlings?). i.e. designed for trans-ocean, and not sheltered waters sailing, to resist flexing, twisting and cyclic loading.

     

    Carvel planked - no chance. Anything with a single layer of wood, sealed with caulking or what ever, the risk is too great. Spring one plank, and you're in Davy Jones locker before you know it. Not to mention all the issues with the topsides drying out whilst in port, and leaking and needing to take up again as soon as you start healing over and getting them wet...

     

    What was the name of that big wooden American boat that disappeared mid Tasman one winter several years back? Sailed out of Whangarei, heading for Oz. Had 8 or 9 on-board I think. There was extensive searches and they couldn't find a trace. The parents of a younger lady who was on board had a hard time coming to terms with it, criticized MRCC a lot and paid for a lot of private searching. That boat was carvel planked, very old (maybe 100 years or something, I'm just going by memory here). Most likely sprung a plank and went down faster than they could activate an EPIRB.

     

    This boat will be carvel planked when finished, would you go offshore in it ? look at those scantlings they are absolutely  massive !!

     

     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Rd699cDmIw

  2. I wonder how they resist the tendency to round up with such close angles and beamy hulls/sterns.

    The wider the hull the greater the lateral separation between the  drive of the sail  and the hull drag, at its worse when you are on the wind , less so when reaching.This force couple tends to make the boat want to round up more, I suppose you could argue that the heel angle moves the centre of drive to leeward compensating for this. Either way there must be some interesting design challenges for the naval architects but its all solved on puters I suppose. This wee trailer sailer used lee boards which would have been interesting for balance.

     

    https://www.google.co.nz/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.boatersresources.com%2Fimg.php%3Ft%3D1%26id%3D7518174&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.boatersresources.com%2Fboat-for-sale%2F1993-RedFox200EGreatTrailerSailer-Used-482326&docid=by1Ap8EJCuDlYM&tbnid=WLlsC8vlMpnMzM%3A&vet=10ahUKEwjGkt3-iaPiAhUMT30KHW8oD-sQMwg7KAIwAg..i&w=599&h=401&bih=625&biw=1366&q=red%20fox%20trailer%20sailer&ved=0ahUKEwjGkt3-iaPiAhUMT30KHW8oD-sQMwg7KAIwAg&iact=mrc&uact=8

     

  3. The post was not a personal attack it was a descriptive verbatim response to my partner being on the receiving end of a completely bizarre extraordinary response from a marina employee.

    The other employee that was party to the exchange walked off in a embarrassed haze.

    Moving on.

    Now free of grand children and cat with extortionate marina fees settled the good ship Priscilla journeys to the Gulf of Dreams and the hardy crew swim with dolphins in Woody Bay dine with Neptune and moor in West Bay with a stink pot Monet that runs their f**king motor to power ,jug , microwave , electric blanket and marital aids constantly.

    However the crowning gleeful glory was Pikelet has had a birthday.attachicon.gif 32018807-E207-4FD8-8382-7BC35220CF4F.jpegattachicon.gif F2B340E7-9492-4421-8EE7-D692C22B3EEF.jpeg

     

     

     

    Good looking boat that !

  4. I popped in this morning early, looking for good deals. It was packed. Looked, realised prices were not actually clearance prices, but barely even ‘on special’ prices. Left quickly.

     

    Pretty much a universal experience for me with any "Closing Down" or "Liquidation" Sale, 

  5. What objects/surfaces you proposing to paint ? and what sort of paints, e.g  two pack systems ? My experience with early wagner airless DIY units and two pack paints was not good. So  unless modern designs have improved dramatically I would go compressor driven. I have a small gravity fed $50 touch up gun and a $200 direct drive compressor I use it a lot for small jobs where I want a good finish. Mostly these are objects I can take off the boat and paint at home. Belt driven units are better but more expensive and still wont deliver the flow for painting a hull, or at least that is what my boat painter friend says. So if you have that in mind then your Scottish side wont like  it as you will need a 3 phase or petrol driven compressor. 

    You need to thin the paint more for small compressors, its a bit trial and error to get it right. When I spray using water based paints I thin with Bars Bugs Window wash concentrate (trust me it works :-)  

    As with all painting a good result is prep and technique dependent I would practice with small jobs and cheap paint, Good luck !

     

    Edit: Re airless units,  my comments do not include professional/ industrial airless rigs used to paint houses etc, but then they cost thousands I imagine.

  6. Had it explained in detail how QMS forces commercial to dump.

    If I had quota for 6 tonne of snapper nearing the end of the season,all thats left of my quota(snapper) is 600kn and I catch 800kg

    I have 2 choices ,one is ring around and find out who has quota left so it can be landed under their quota,2 ,stock caught so must be ,I get paid the going rate for the 600kg,the other 200kg I pay a deemed value to mpi/fisheries and it could be as much as $30kg 

     

    So what am I going too do?? dump it of course,must of got the net caught on something,ring mpi/fisheries straight away and I am covered.(bit of a bugger tearing a good net and repairing but might cheaper than the deemed value).

     

    Stock that I do not have quota for must not be landed,another waste,if landed I face a penalty for landing non quota species unless I find someone who has quota for that stock.

    "So what am I going to do".......? well how about good old fashioned Compliance With the Rules, even if you consider the system imperfect. What gives anyone in this particular industry the right to rort the system because they personally disagree with it ? Lets apply that to Aviation, Medicine, Taxation, Policing, etc and see how we advance as a society, Somalia anyone ?

  7. At this stage, it would either kept at Pine Harbour or Shelly Park and both have issues with access at low tide. Shallow draft isn't critical but it would certainly add flexibility to when I could go in and out.

     

    I knew there were some twin keel versions made of the Lotus 9.2 and I had heard there was also a centreboard version but have never come across either for sale. I have also seen a shoal draft fin keel version but from what I understand most have the normal fin keel.

     

    The Whiting 29 has two versions, a shallow draft masthead rig cruising version and a deeper draft version with a fractional rig although I have come across hybrid versions. 

     

    From what I have found out so far the Young 88 has a fin keel version and it looks like some have modified fins so the draft varies and there's also a swing keel version.

     

    They all seem to have reasonable headroom from what I can gather. 

     

    Another feature I would like is an open or walk through transom, possibly with a sugar scoop but it's not an absolute must have.

    I have seen a couple of Lotus 9.2's modified like this but it would be a bit of an undertaking to do. Some of the Whiting 29's were fitted with a sugar scoop option and a couple have been modified to walk through. Still a little bit of work but not nearly as much as the Lotus 9.2. The Young 88 already has an open transom and as I enjoy sailing I am attracted to its sailing performance. 

     

    So, for an all-weather yacht single-handed cruising around NZ for extended periods with the possibility of having one or two inexperienced crew aboard sometimes which of these would be your preference and why?

    I have a Carpenter 29 at Shelly Park, Draft is 1.6 metres access is 2 hours either side of low tide, no change in 28 years. 

  8. Those you've mentioned are all good boats. Also worth thinking about a farr 9.2 or a y88. All have been for sale in the price range you mention - probably a case of looking at and maybe trying to organise a sail on a few and see what you think. Personally I'd look for the tidyiest one that's had the most love you can find as it's easy to buy a "project" and blow the budget!

    What he said, find the one that's had the most TLC through its life, they are not as common as you might think though.

  9. I don't have a real high performance boat its an early 80's IOR special from South Africa.     I have an old furling 140% Genoa that I plan to replace with a 100 - 120% depending on who is giving me the advice and either a Symmetric or an Asymmetric.  Currently, I sail wing on wing downwind or just take an as best angle as I can.  I could still somewhat pole out an Asymmetric for downwind?

    You mentioned cruising until you run out of money well you could get a head start by buying both a spinnaker and an A2, they are quite expensive sails plus you then have to store both. I would go for some sort of asymmetric and ditch the whisker pole, with that and the genoa you have plenty of options.

  10. There's one Stewart thats so gone in Mangonui that if it was a horse you'd have to shoot it. Has grass happily growing on it but it also has a letter from NRC taped to the wash boards. Couldn't read it from the dinghy but a good guess it will be one of those 21 day remove it or.... The skin fittings when they pop, will cost the owner a LOT more than towing it one way behind Grt Barrier (Nice idea by the way).

    Common guys, towing it behind the the Barrier and sinking it ? do the right thing and scrap it properly ,otherwise we are no better than all the other environmental cowboys. This is the 21st century not the 19th a fiberglass boat wont rot or rust away.

  11. How about the boat owner applying some self logic  before we blame the council ? why should they inherit the problem and then pass the cost on to the rate payers.

     

    Boat owner self -logic checklist

     

    1. Maintain the boat in a seaworthy state

    2. Service the mooring

    3. Keep the vessel insured

    4. When selling it meet the market

    5. Be realistic about your ability to do all of the above, financially, Physically and mentally, don't do the maritime equivalent of fly-tipping and simply walk away.

  12. Its a whisker pole , used on  symmetrical spinnakers , to hold the guy (windward sheet)  off the side stays (prevents chafe) when the pole is well fwd,(ie almost touching the mast) 

  13. I have recovered a few sunken moorings over the years, a small grapnel towed behind a dinghy did the job. This was always done at dead at low tide and once hooked you then dive down the rope and attach a heavy line  for recovery. This has also been used to recover lost dive belts but with a smaller grapnel, so the technique works fine as long as there is something for the grapnel to hook on to. Stating the bleeding bloody obvious I suppose but your biggest challenge  is the area you have to cover. The grapnel was four pronged made from 8mm rebar 400 mm Long and 180 mm Dia. Patience is key sometimes it took 2 or 3 hrs to hook it but worth it for $1700 perhaps.

  14. True but with freediving the only potential point of failure is your own judgement ie ignoring the warning signs that you learn your body tells you. With scuba you have the added risk of equipment failure which is largely outside your control.

    Equipment failure and or its consequences are not outside your control if your equipment is well maintained and you are properly trained in established safe procedures such as diving with a buddy and using  an Octi and a spare dive computer. etc.

     

    I have free dived and I like the simplicity of it I have immense respect for competent free divers, I also have a master SCUBA  ticket via PADI  but I'm no more stressed free diving than SCUBA diving, I understand the risks of both and take adequate precautions. Sometimes despite all this there are accidents both with free divers and SCUBA, nothing is totally risk free. 

  15. Or put a dive flag up which means to others go as fast as you can past...no matter what the distance!

    You can also go as fast as you can if you are travelling through moored vessels or going over the top of the dive flag or diver. The flag should be well visible so the vessel has something to aim for otherwise they risk missing the diver or the boat with the topman.

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  16. I'm attracted to the scorkl because it is hand pumped even though it takes 12 minutes to load it up according to the blurb. Carrying an air cylinder to recharge a spare air type systen would appear in my case to be a bit self defeating.

    I would be happy to do that in NZ, but French canal water? Perhaps not. .

    After 12 min of pumping I suspect you will be "over it" I have used a Spare Air while cleaning a boat and it lasted about 5 min . The problem being that as soon as you start exerting yourself with cleaning you will dramatically increase your air consumption. The bottle in the Scorkel picture looks to be smaller than the Spare Air bottle I used.

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