[June 94 Storm.]

Hypothetically speaking,  Re the June 94 storm, would it have been possible to have sailed out of the path with the type of weather updates available now (Predictwind, modern weather prediction algorithms, more data, modems, etc etc.) 

 

Or did it brew too quickly and move too fast ?

 

I hope the question is not to dumb, apologies in advance if it is.

 

Thanks

 

Frank

 

 

[Cheap Bene, needs (major) work]

Not sure how much of a problem it is given the numbers of boats produced with this method.

 

 

The reason that bolts dont usually go through glass floors is that the they are not solid but top hat construction. Timber floors take the compression and the floors spread the load to stringers or hull as the case may be. On a glass boat the "keelson" is solid and and can withstand huge bolt tension, the layup spreads the load to the floors etc. Grids are quite elegant design solutions provided they are bonded correctly given the huge surface area.

Mmmmm,  Interesting, I figured the top hat sections were almost certainly hollow, your comment that it is an elegant design solution is an interesting and I'm sure accurate perspective. The problem is I guess that we never see a posting from the Naval Architect who designed the installation, explaining the philosophy. However perhaps what is shown is that the solid floor approach may be more damage tolerant in terms of groundings etc. I did hear from an NZ broker yesterday of a production yacht that failed the pre-purchase inspection quite recently. It was due to a significant area of liner disbonding on the port side. The boat otherwise presented well.  

[Cheap Bene, needs (major) work]

Interesting topic for me as I am considering a Bene Oceanis 405 of 90's vintage. I currently have a self built Carpenter 29 which goes to windward quite well. I have sailed a Dufour 43 or thereabouts in Noumea, it was a dog on the wind but the interior space was amazing, To be fair it had a shortish keel and for the most part I think it just needed more grunt in the rig. There are so many opinions on the internet about the grid/Liner method of construction its hard to sort the truth from the noise. 

I'm curious as to why someone has not evolved a cost effective technique for repairing disbonded liners. Methods that come to mind are

1. Removing the flat sections between the "Girders" or "Floors+ leaving a Top Hat section with a flange  that can then be Tabbed back on to the the hull.

2. Trepanning a large circle of material between the raised sections and localised tabbing to "Stitch" the grid to the hull , could work for smallish areas.

3. Applying a vacuum and infusing epoxy resin into a disbonded area, an acetone wash could be applied possibly.

4. A mix of the above.

 

I would be interested to hear from anyone who has experience in this area ?

[Cyclades 43]

Thanks Jon !

[Cyclades 43]

Morning all, longtime listener , first time caller here, I've been sailing 40 yrs coastal mostly.

Have done 3 pacific trips on a Ganley Stratos, not mine. I'm looking to do more of these trips on my own boat eventually. So to that point any comments on the suitability of a Beneteau Cyclades 43 for offshore cruising, good bones ? I think the sailing Vagabonde team had one for a while.

Thanks

Frank