[SSANZ 100]

I wouldn't leave that #1 at home, some of the forecasts have looked like lightening off later.

 

Go the pies!

[Jib Halyard Replacement]

I'm no expert, but my understanding is the risk with going to spectra is not so much what the spectra might do to the sheave, but what the sheave might do to the spectra.  If the old wire setup has grooved the sheave it could cut/chafe through the spectra.

 

I know of people who have changed to spectra and stuck with their old sheave from their wire setup with no issues.  The sheave being narrow isn't really a problem, as spectra etc are still strong in small sizes.  If your halyard terminates on a jammer check your jammer will still work with the narrower line, although a smart rigger might be able to add a sheath or poke an extra line down the core where it goes through the jammer to bump it up a size.

[Towable Genoa cars vs a Barberhauler]

By towable do you mean adjustable on the fly using strings from the cockpit?  Or just the usual car on a track?

 

Surely for single handed cruising on a raven 31 you'd just use the regular car/track system it probably came with?  Barberhaulers/adjustable on the fly car/track systems are more than what most cruisers would bother with, they'd just set the car roughly to the right spot for the sail on the day and leave it there.

[where do you get canvas (dodger) repairs done?]

Eclipse Canvas also do good work. I think they're out west but their boat is at Westhaven so they're there all the time.

[Who is going to buy our yachts and at what price?]

There are some 10.5m berths at Westhaven aren't there?

 

Yeah I'm pretty sure some of the ones in the "new" area (u/v/x) are 10.5?

[Who is going to buy our yachts and at what price?]

The designs are now just outdated and the new plastic fantastics are built like crap and will probably fall apart in 10 years but the designs are A1.

 

I'm not sure whether I agree with this or not? Sure propper race boats have gotten faster, but I think the cruiser/racers aren't that far ahead of some 30 year old NZ designs.

 

Some of the more modern boats maybe have cleverer layouts etc, but in terms of performance are the modern racer/cruiser designs really that far ahead? Our fleets of Y88s, 1020s, Y11s E1050s etc all seem to stack up pretty well against equivalent sized more modern Euro production cruiser/racers you see racing here.

 

While I agree with some of the comments above about it being time for some boats to be put out to pasture, I'd still have a hard time convincing myself it was worth shelling out $250k+ for a new first 35/bavaria match/hanse etc when I could buy a tidy Y11 for a hundred.

[Westhaven Happenings]

 

The footpath is raised to make both drivers and pedestrians aware of the fact it is a crossing.

 

Wouldn't you paint white lines on it like every other crossing in the country? Especially where you've changed it from having always been part of the road...

 

I'm also not sure about the idea that most of the boats in westhaven already carry their own hose. Mine and all the ones I race on certainly don't... Wonder where this wisdom came from??? I don't remember being asked.

[2nd hand yacht prices = ridiculous]

Example, if you were in the market for one of the world's most popular large family cruisers (Bavaria 46) then these two make the point:

 

1. Locally in NZ you have to spend $342,000 to pick up a 6 yr old model:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/boats-m ... 037244.htm

 

2. Whereas overseas for less cash (NZD$300k) you can get a 'brand new' 2012 version of the same size boat:

http://au.yachtworld.com/core/listing/b ... 77177&url=

 

So if you are browsing in this bracket then it's got to be tempting to buy offshore, right?

 

I see what you're saying and do agree.

But the difference might not be as much as it looks at first glance. I don't know what exactly is involved but there would surely be some duty/taxes involved you'd have to pay... Even if it's just GST there goes nearly $50k if you're buying a $300k boat.

Plus there's probably more room for negotiation on the price with the second hand one.

Then there's the cost/hassle of getting it to NZ.

[2nd hand yacht prices = ridiculous]

I was in the same position a year or so back, bought then and have kept an eye on prices since as well.

 

My impression is that prices haven't dropped significantly in the last year, it seems to be more of a case that there are two sets of people selling - ones who actually want to sell and ones who want to hold out for a particular price.

 

Certainly a year ago when I was looking to buy, there were a few R930s and y88s in the $35-$45k range, a Chico 30 and davo 28 both asking low 20s, as well as a marauder and a E7.9 asking high teens. But there were some crazy high prices being asked for other boats. By and large, the good deals sold quickly, and the overpriced ones sat there, and in a number of cases are still for sale now.

 

From what I can see it's more or less the same now, there are some good deals on ones which are seriously for sale, but there are a lot of dreamers around as well, who are going to have to drop their asking price if they actually want to sell.