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Always a good weekend. Now to find a boat...
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Markline 1000?
The one in the foreground looks nicer though.
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2 hours ago, DrWatson said:
But back on topic, let's say you were skipper for a charter crew in AKL, you want to show them the gulf for a week. What's your route assuming you want to try to minimise cooking on the boat. Two routes? One being money no object, the other being, 30 bucks a night per person for meals...
Probably not enough places that do this kind of thing to handle the two scenarios. But there are options, assuming you don't mind ferrying yourself ashore.
- Head from other marina to gulf harbour and go to restaurant there.
- kawau boating club
- possibly pub at Fitzroy although heard it might have closed
- heaps of choice at oneroa. Including a forum member here who has bought/opened a restaurant there this year. I suspect you could do dinner at a new place at oneroa each night for a week. Also accessible from oneroa or Blackpool so doable in any wind direction
- Onetangi. Not super different from oneroa, but different eateries.
- man o war. Beautiful for lunch. Not certain if still open for dinner?
- various options in Warkworth, requires a decent trip up the river from mahurangi in your dinghy.
- possibly options at coromandel township. Haven't been for so long I'm not sure what's there these days.
- if you don't mind a walk or are happy with an uber, many vineyards, craft breweries etc on waiheke. All within easy organising distance of good anchorages. Mostly not cheap. Google cable bay or mud brick to get a feel.
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On 30/08/2020 at 2:07 PM, Clipper said:
But if light winds, will be bloody tough (long)
Light winds are practically unheard of for r66 though!
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1 hour ago, DrWatson said:
Yeah, I guess you need a min number of boats each night, and the charters make it easier to get those numbers.
True, I believe the ones I mentioned in the sounds close over the winter months, I guess due to lack of volume.
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Kawau boating club, man o war winery, the various eateries at oneroa/onetangi are also all places you can go in your boat, anchor, and take your own dinghy in for a feed and a drink or two.
Not exactly like the experience in the original post (or the Marlborough sounds) with mooring and shuttling in and out included, but not miles away either.
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Massive ship to have that happen. Despite their ungainly appearance they don't lose many of them.
I recently read a book about the sinking of the 700 foot cargo ship El Faro in a cyclone a few years ago. Called into the raging sea or something along those lines. Was an interesting read, they had a manged to find the "black box" recorder from the bridge. Catalogue of failures leading up to the event.
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Marlborough sounds. Lochmara, furneax, punga Lodges all do this.
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Advice we had from westhaven when moving in was that to be allowed into a 12m berth we had to be 12m or less. 12.2 would have meant a bigger berth.
The reason when quizzed that they gave for a bunch of 10.2m boats already in 10m berths and 12.2 in 12s was that these were historic arrangements they had grandfathered in, but that anything new would be measured and if it were over 12 it needed to go in a bigger berth.
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We had very similar symptoms and it turned out to be a simple fix. The nmea 2000 network requires a terminating resistor at each end. These sometimes fail. Basically if the terminator at the end of the network fails then you get all sorts of oddball intermittent things happening with the network, which sounds like more or less what you have.
Fairly cheap and easy to swap out, (once you find it it just clips on) included in packs like this
Or may be able to be bought on their own.
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Had some dealings with pantaneus about 3 years ago and that was the case then.
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3 hours ago, Tamure said:
the weekend is looking interesting, think they send them off across the gulf at night in 30 kts?
That's kind of what it's all about. And the smaller/less capable boats do shorter courses.
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Allan Wright is still around I think. Someone here may be able to put you in touch with him.
Google may have more if you search for Allan Wright Variant not write.
There was a book as well which you might be able to find somewhere. More about the designer than the individual designs though. https://www.wheelers.co.nz/books/9780473246198-wrighty-my-world-my-boats-and-eighty-years/
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On 23/07/2020 at 8:56 AM, crump said:
Where does the performance come from? E.g. a Young 88 is only marginally longer than a Davidson 28 and not vastly different in sail area but rates significantly higher in performance. Data lists it at almost half the weight I guess. It doesn't have the waterline length but rates similar to a Stewart 34 in race performance?
I see both these boats claiming 20kts downwind at times which is fairly unimaginable to us. I have dug up a much bigger spinnaker for us to cause trouble with now but we haven't seen its upper end yet.
Both the Y88 and Stew34 are fairly high on my desirable list. And no one is convincing me to campaign the D28 for a coastal? Aww 😄
Hull shape, weight, sail area, appendage drag, balance. There's a range of factors. Both 88 or 930 will plane downwind which is why the big speeds are achievable. The hull shape and weight of the d28 don't really support this.
The d28 is a good boat but is kind of a generation behind the others mentioned in this thread in terms of design thinking.
930s are great as pointed out lots in this thread, but are narrow so feel smaller inside than an 88 or similar.
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One other point going back to the original post - the whiting 29 that's come up in your racetrack search is a slow one. If you change your search to full history you'll see them all and that loads rate more like 0.67. Still not 88 or 930 territory, but a decent margin faster than your d28.
If I were in your situation I'd say that the answer to your fundamental question is that yes you're better to upgrade to a different boat than throw heaps of money at the d28. Contrary to what's been said above a y88 shouldn't cost double what scarlet does, and fleet street sold recently after being advertised in the high 20s. Also worth looking at farr 9.2s, lidguard 29s as well.
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27 minutes ago, wheels said:
That may have changed IT. The cost to insure for Ocean passages is ruffly as much as the cost of a Boat. This is due to the Market falling and cost of Insurance rising. Unless it is a case of Insurance being cheaper if you have qualified skipper I guess. Anyway, Hence why it is becoming much more common to put a Yacht on a Ship now. But as seen above, with cost around the $100K mark, the Boat needs to be worth the cost of putting it on a Ship.
That is simply not true. Assuming your boat is sound and your crew is satisfactory to the insurer, blue water insurance can be obtained for most boats without a problem. And for far less than the cost of the boat. As IT says, most vessels out there have cover.
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19 minutes ago, mattm said:
Thought you were going to say ‘put the wife on a diet’
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Haha far too dangerous!
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13 minutes ago, mattm said:
To me the question is how will you store it, how often will you take it off the dinghy, how often will you need to lift it. If you can work with the weight of 4-st, then yeah sure, go for it.
Veladare is a fairly comfy fountain pajot which I'd guess has space to lift the dinghy between the transoms/behind the cockpit. This hopefully means Tom doesn't need to remove the outboard from the dinghy?
I've had some experience with a 3.5m Southern Pacific and a 9.9 and it would quite happily plane 3 up. Possibly the answer here depends on the size/weight of the dinghy too?
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I realise you're quite committed having the varient already, but in days gone by plenty of young blokes have done more or less what you describe - started out with a boat to mess around on and fix up and join a fleet of similar boats to go racing (and cruising) in pied pipers. Here's an example, but I've seen them go for cheaper https://www.trademe.co.nz/2687118659
These have good performance for their size, and despite being old boats still have good number of them racing - in a recent ssanz race there would have been more than a dozen. I think they may also still race regularly out of milford as well. Having similar boats to race against, and other owners with the same boats to share advice, really helps with setup and understanding what impact changes made to setup have had etc.
Another thing to consider in terms of which club to join is they often offer discounted entry fees to their races for their own members, so if he plans to race with a particular club it may be worth joining there even if it costs a little more.
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What sort of keel does it have?
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Seems Jim Young has died in the last day or so.
One of NZs best designers. I'm sure many of us have owned and sailed on Jim's designs. One of the true pioneers who made NZ yachting what it has become.
My grandfather, with his brother and Roy Dickson as crew, used to race against Jim out of Northcote and my grandfather always spoke very highly of "young Jimmy". I met him at pcc during his book launch, despite already being 90ish he was switched on and really cool to have a chat to, although fairly unenthusiastic about my 88 having a bulb keel...
RIP Jim.
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Please only park within Westhaven Marina when on site for a marina related purpose
So does this mean that once you're out of the entrance on your boat for your race/cruise/whatever, you are technically in breach of their terms and conditions as you're no longer "on site"? Seems like these have been drawn up by someone with no clue as to the marinas actual purpose.
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Temerity is next to us in westhaven. Moved up here from tauranga over summer.
Flying fox also mentioned above is in waikawa marina and I believe still races with wbc.
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(slightly) more recently there used to be a good fleet of ravens racing with VCC in the early-mid 90s
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I live out west and was working from home on Friday. A wee while prior to the harbour bridge incident an intense front came through my place. It was already 20-30, but for a few minutes blew much more - like double or above. I'd say its not the geography around westhaven or the bridge, it was just a particularly intense front, which Auckland has always had come through. Unlucky that the trucks on the bridge happened to be there as it hit.