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Not often I agree with a man that sails a steel drum or a plywood box but today is that day
I'm always true North and north up on all devices, even paper charts
Your scenario re navigating with a compass bearing only works if you are exactly where you think you are, if your not then your compass bearings are all wrong
'Never trust less people than two forms of info'
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SSANZ in association with Chains, Ropes & Anchors is organising the ANZAC 150. Starting at 1730hrs on Friday 21st April 2017 and finishing at Great Barrier Island with a Rally home on Sunday.
Key Details:
Longhaul starts at 1730hrs on Friday 21st April off Westhaven
Shorthaul and Cruising Divisions start 0900hrs Saturday 22nd April
3 Courses Longhaul 150 miles
Shorthaul 75 miles
Cruising Division 60 miles
IRC Divisions subject to entries
Finish at Great Barrier
Prizegiving and Party Smokehouse Bay Great Barrier
http://ssanz.co.nz/events/index.html?id=155
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Ok all that wished they were sailing and not just checking the tracker every 30min here is your chance.
http://ssanz.co.nz/events/index.html?id=155
Three different courses that you choose not limited to the size of your yacht
Only limitation is you need Cat 3 for longhaul, with Shorthaul and Cruising Cat 4
Great destination finish with beach party to follow plus rally home.
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A friend had one and with good sails it went really well in the club racing fleet
Most are only cruised so the sails are to match but well sailed with good rags you want be disappointed, faster than a T32 I'd say, plus heaps of room and a decent motor
They were mostly home built so quality will vary but for a cruiser of that size they would be hard to beat
Offshore ? It would depend on the boat and crew but plenty sail worse around the world.
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Don't think any leg is as tough as a S2H on average but what makes this a tough race is it's four races back to back and your two handed and generally on smaller yachts so I'd personally put this as the toughest regularly race race in this part of the world if not further a field
Well done to all that got to the start line as this is in it's self an achievement
And congrats to all that get around, how ever they do it.
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Zenith and Squealer decided not to start and head back to Nelson
Disregard their trackers as they have been switched off and removed from the boats
Celadon has retired and gone into Gisborne to wait out the weather
Jet has major engine problems so have suspended racing and are heading into Napier, not likely that they will resume, but they still have that option.
Wedgetail had to return to port prior to the start for prop shaft repairs and started late.
Reports from onboard range from crap to henus across the fleet but it's looking like the rich will get richer all the way to the finish
But only Blink and Wedgetail are still in the hunt for Div 1 as all others have swapped crew at some point
Great to see SF a div 3 boat kicking all the div 2 boats
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Only if your out on the water watching then it will be live and the rain will be streamingCheers - Live streaming of the start again?!?
Weathers looking good for the front end of the fleet for leg 4
But the timing is still changing with each update, and all the models are now mostly agreeing
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Waiting for them in Welly is getting painful
After getting up to check the tracker every two hours all night and now they are further away
Been for a look around the south coast this morning but can't see them as they have disappeared around the corner
Neil has it correct wind and current going the same way is giving them no apparent and the wind is really only in on the shore
They are running up the down escalator flat out going nowhere
But wait the westerly is on its way, they are trapped between two systems
Can someone do a zero to hero will be the big question now
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Bluefin tuna actually
Can't wait to taste it
Looking like another DNF
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Are Mack and Tom motoring, what's with the straight line track??
Marlin fishing actually
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If you draw a line from the happy jacks to L barrier then on to C Rodney YNZ will let you run a race Cat 4
CC is Cat 3 as it goes around two Capes
We (SSANZ) have been working hard to either lower category rating or run races in areas that we can get away with lower category's
As for paper charts we have all but allowed yachts to not have then in the RNI as long as you have multi devices and multi forms of power
I'm picking in 3 years the next RNI will be all electronic if you wish to go that way
But it's really hard to argue against safety gear and it makes the organisers more liable if something goes wrong and we have removed something that was a requirement
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the grouping look pretty fair to me. evenish numbers in each div as well. Nice work dark arts master.
Previously the range of the divisions was fixed but unfortunately we don't know who will enter at this point, which lead to only 3 yachts in div 1 last time.
Two of them turbo and one naturally aspirated
So this time we have gone for
Div 1, top fuel
Div 2, fast 40 somethings
Div 3, 35 or close enough family frighteners
Div 4, classic Kiwis
There are a couple there that we had to fit as best we could but the goal was to get even competition within divisions as close as possible so anyone can win there division if they sail well enough plus with 4 legs in different conditions the best sailed Yacht just seems to rise to the top for some lucky reason.
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Long Tack to Oblivion
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How are the division splits worked?
its a "Dark Art"
if I told you I'd have to kill you
or maybe I just make them up as I go along ?
The thing to note is the major trophies are by division not overall
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Possibly, I thought someone would go on a LTO
Had this from him this morning
Marshall law rni competitor position 34.38.67s 172.22.84e course 226 speed 8.1kn all good. pls acknowledge. blew out the a2 last night in a wee wipe out. bugger!!
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Leg two starts at 1800hrs today
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Forecast is looking slightly better this morning but still a bit slow
If your coming out on the water to watch the start please give the yachts plenty of room as with a incoming tide and little wind plus being two handed they are going to have enough on without dodging spectators
If you want a good view from on land then come out onto Devonport Wharf, lots of room but the Navy guns are very loud
You should be able to watch the start on the Wharf then walk up to north head to have the fleet sail past below you
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Depends on your boat type also
If your a sports or multi racer then I'd go super comfortable highend
If your cruising then I'd look at lifetime cost, we practically never wear ours (I sailed all the way back from Europe without putting one on) but some boats I wouldn't step foot on without wearing one
I'm guessing most will fall somewhere in between
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Look at service dates as they need to be serviced in accordance with the manufacturers specs
Most are annually some are biannually and at least one brand are user serviceable
At $50 to $60 per jacket it can add up
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Weather is looking light for leg one, but still plenty of time for change
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Ok here's an event for everyone, even them dangerous sub 10m death traps
Sponsored by a really nice guy deep down, maybe he will bring out the reptile for it ?
This is so anti sizist that you pick the distance you want to do !!
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Jon, I thought there a RNZ pencilled in for 2018 at the moment? Do you mean to push this out to 2019? (Which would be good...)
Yes, I lost a year somewhere, must have been off sailing around the world, either physically or mentally
Because it's M2O in 18 if we had the numbers for 19 we would look at it, wouldn't be 20 as that's RNI year again
We would want 12 paid entries six months out to make RNZ happen, but ya never know what will come out of this RNI, if we get another 2011 race it will make it hard but if it's all down wind at 15kts it could be different, but then again 2011 lead into the 2012 RNZ, so disappointment can lead to commitment also.
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Ok so now that my comments on the other race has been pushed into this thread I'll add to them.
We (SSANZ) don't take expressions of interest and promote them as entries
We open our long races and you pay your money to secure a spot, which we limit in number, yes some come and go but it builds commitment early on.
Other clubs put up names of boats that are distant possiblities in the hope it will attract others but imho all it does is attract other distant possiblities
Also I wasn't meaning the whole project is as difficult to do a RNI but comparatively the sailing two handed with a lee shore for 1200nm is just just as difficult if not more so then you compare the yachts that come from the central region that do this twice.
Consequently we will run another Round New Zealand race as soon as we get enough commitment
Probably not 2017 by current indications but possibly 2018
This race is much harder than any race to the islands, what with sailing into the southern ocean and 2500nm, sure it may be in 4 legs but leg 2 from Mangonui is almost as far as either Fiji or Tonga
There is a reason why only 14 yachts have ever raced around NZ
As for cost I've heard of one yacht spending 60k on just sails for the RNI
The cost difference between Cat 2 and Cat 1 is hundreds not thousand
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Chains Ropes & Anchors ANZAC 150
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