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    Registration Offshore such as the Cook Islands

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    On 2/08/2023 at 2:10 PM, marinheiro said:

    the cat that sank was an Australian boat rescued in the middle of the night by a NZ boat that was part of the ICNZ rally in what were described as "in a very brave and tricky situation". No doubt the NZ boats ASS and First aid training would have been of assistance

    and your point continues to be the rules should be specially changed just to suit you.

    I asked Jon a reasonable question and await with interest to see his response.

    Yes M they are generally budget and inexperienced sailors, but not all, some are very experienced sailors that have been there done that and have very expensive boats and will be doing it for tax reasons. So the regulations are missing the ones that need it most in my personal opinion ( this is what I’ll take back to YNZ ) not sure what the answer is here, met some great guys on my 4th ASS course earlier this year that planned to head off.

    like you said we hauled a month out so we could depart with new Antifoul and that would be one less issue to worry about up here and on returning 

    Currently in Vuda sorting a mechanical issue but hopefully back out in a day or two.

    As for the toddler that fell from the Wharram I’d say it was a moment of inattention that the parents now have to live with for the rest of their lives, could have been anyone or boat.

    A Maritimo 51 hit the reef a few days ago and chewed up a prop, that is NZ registered and Cat 1, but sh*t happens to anyone anytime.

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    Registration Offshore such as the Cook Islands

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    14 hours ago, Guest said:

    I’m getting they all seem to use the YNZ template as per what gear they take but ASS course costs and 5 year renewal,MARINE medic course, out of water inspection 


    I take it “but” means except for?

     

     

    These are the reasons they are giving me for not registering in NZ and finding an alternative 

    Registration Offshore such as the Cook Islands

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    I’ve been asking kiwi owners on foreign flagged boats that are currently in Fiji why they did it this way with the idea to take this back to YNZ. I sit on both sides of fence (boat owner and YNZ inspector)

    I’m getting they all seem to use the YNZ template as per what gear they take but ASS course costs and 5 year renewal, MARINE medic course, out of water inspection 

    ‘But if you want insurance then your paying one way or the other, cost of insurance is less if you do it properly just to start with.

    Registration Offshore such as the Cook Islands

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    On 19/07/2023 at 2:33 PM, marinheiro said:

    did Vero prescribe minimum 3 crew for all international passages? I have this stipulation including for the 200 mile passage Vanuatu New Caledonia which is a bit over the top, did it solo in 2019.

    Yes plus they need to be approved by them as suitable 

    We came up with 4, 1 first timer offshore even though he’d done plenty of local stuff in this boat.

    have got 4 experienced for trip home 

     

    Registration Offshore such as the Cook Islands

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    2 hours ago, marinheiro said:

    I would be careful making that claim re insurance, might be the case with some insurers but not most. My experience in getting offshore insurance in 2019 and 2023 with Baileys/Vero included the requirements for a vessel condition report by a qualified boat builder or surveyor plus a rig inspection report, in addition to the Cat 1 cert. A mate got a quote from Pantaneius for offshore cover, they wanted a full out of water survey.

    Only speaking from my experience with Vero this season, initially they wanted a survey from a boat builder but then said they were happy to accept the Cat 1.
    Plus some boats I did the Cat 1 on had the same experience, but everyone can have a different experience from the same situation. However each boat will have different requirements due to age and history 

    Registration Offshore such as the Cook Islands

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    On 8/07/2023 at 4:37 PM, Will Fransen said:

    Hi all.

    I'm interested to hear from anyone who has registered their vessel offshore (such as the Cook Islands), perhaps to avoid the stringent CAT 1 requirements Maritime NZ seem to impose on vessels. I own a well found launch, which is a tad short for Maritime NZ's view of "what is safe". Grateful for any experiences you may have encountered?

    cheers

    Will

    You say you boat is short of Cat 1 ?

    Unless it’s over 24m you will be dealing with a YNZ inspector (and sometimes if over also)

    There are both pros and cons to being NZ registered, on of the pros is most insurance companies will accept your Cat 1 as a survey/inspection for insurance 

    There is some room for alternative solutions to the regs so have a conversation with an inspector before you go off the idea

    Personally I’d not go offshore from NZ without getting an independent inspection of any boat, weather that’s Cat 1 or a marine surveyor unless you’ve done plenty and so has the boat.

    (YNZ safety Inspector currently sitting off Denarau in my own yacht)

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    Pogo 36

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    Amazing amount of room for a 36’er 3 queen size bunks and really nice saloon 

    plus goes up wind better than you’d think but it will be a weapon on a reach, could be hard to beat in a normal coastal 

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    Re-galvanizing an anchor with a lead insert.

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    On 15/05/2023 at 10:10 PM, K4309 said:

    You can get zinc enamel spray paints that would be a good application here. Far easier and cheaper than doing a re-galv. If it is only sitting in a locker it will work fine. Will stop it rusting. As soon as it drags through some sand and shell the zinc paint will come off, but if it is your spare, you can worry about that then. Will stop it rusting in a locker.

    This is exactly what I did, used a can of etch primer after power wire brushing it, then sprayed it with another coat of cold galv 

    now in forward cabin to hopefully never se the light of seabed

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    Best Family Cruisers for 30k

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    18 hours ago, raz88 said:

    Not sure the carpenter 29 finished the rni. If you're thinking of halo I think it pulled out due to the crew having to go and deal with the effects of the chc earthquake. 

    But that boat above does look good. My advice would be look for a 30ish foot fiberglass cruiser racer built in nz in the 80s. Carpenter, lidguard, farr 9.2, y88 etc. Be open to any of these, and buy the best looked after one with the best engine/sails/gear/electronics etc.

    Chico and h28 you mention are earlier designs and don't have the performance or space of the above.

     

    Halo is a Mull 9.5

    Stormy Dawn won a RNI with the designer and his wife

    Satellite images on iPad

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    Wondering who’s invented this wheel

    Off to Tonga and Fiji this winter and mostly for Fiji I’m wanting the best option for either overlay or seperate device displaying google earth or similar images on my iPad 

    No I don’t want to get an android and like my iPad as it’s simple like me, been googling this for a while and they get technical and start saying download to your laptop bla bla bla 

    Don’t mind paying for an app, but which one works, navionics only show’s images on land or where it thinks the reefs are but we all know that in Fiji there not usually where the chart says

    House battery location ....?

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    One other thing, make sure you can get to your batteries fast

    One of the yachts in the current RNI had a small electrical fire in the back of the panel and the main battery isolator didn’t kill the supply 

    Power was from something that required permanent connection and lid was securely screwed down and tools were well stowed

    Luckily it was controlled but could have been disastrous 

     

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    House battery location ....?

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     All batteries must be installed securely in adequate battery boxes. The bottom of the box must be above the level of the cabin sole. Battery boxes must be acid proof unless all the batteries are fully sealed units.
     

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