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  1. they mean epirbs

    got epirbs broadcasting your lat/long to satellites and you can have a helicopter overhead in as little as 20min

    at least according to some motorbike guys who broke a leg in a remote south island valley 

  2. However Hutchinson is sceptical about the viability of such a regatta, saying it would be "fraught with logistical challenges".

    "You are talking about a boat that is 80,000 man hours to build," Hutchinson said. "Both teams have to go back to England and set up the infrastructure they have to build the boats, they have to sea-trial the boats and go through all that. We know that if its 18 months from today you have three more months of fluff because there is still negotiations going on between Team NZ and the Government here, nothing is set in stone and the only thing that is happening is the time gets shortened."

    For the most part Hutchinson is in favour of the new class rules that have been drawn up between Team New Zealand and Ineos Team UK. He says the move to make 100 per cent of the sailing team passport holders of the country they represent or having been resident there for the past three years is "a logical progression for the competition".

    "The original guiding principle of the Deed of Gift was this competition amongst nations and what has happened there is they've turned the sporting side back to a competition between nations. It's hard not to favour that.
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  3. Light winds on the Waitematā Harbour throughout the America's Cup match earlier this month caused multiple delays and race abandonment's as teams struggled to stay on their foils.

    "We have already made good progress. We are committed now to continuing in this exciting AC75 class, and as a sailor I'm pleased about that," Ainslie wrote. "I think these boats are extraordinary; the scale of them, the speeds they are capable of generating. If there is a weak spot it is probably the light air performance. But that's something we can work on.

    "Whether we end up taking weight out of the boat, use a different sail or foil configuration, we should be targeting the boat foiling effectively in 6 knots."

    Ainslie added he hoped keeping the class rule would see more teams able to contest in the event.

    "We are committed to reducing costs as far as possible - limiting teams to the building of just one new boat, standardising certain non-essential parts - to encourage new entrants," he said.

    "I would hope to see at least six teams in the next Cup and we should be targeting as many as 10."

    While it's yet to be revealed where the next America's Cup will be held, a one-off match at the Isle of Wight next year - at the midway point to the next Cup in 2024 - is on the cards.

    Ainslie had high hopes it would be confirmed.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/americas-cup-sir-ben-ainslie-lifts-lid-on-team-new-zealand-and-ineos-team-uks-plans-for-next-cup-cycle/MSVDHUU7WKMN3SX52XPABIMMPY/

    if the squadron did lock ineos in to a 2024 AC in auckland

    having a 2022 DOG race around the isle of wight shouldn't be too concerning to auckland council or central gov. sponsors as they would still get the cup here in 2024 even in the unlikely event that NZ lost to ineos

    it would also keep world interest in the class high and hopefully boost team numbers for 2024

    perhaps that DOG race could be part of a prada cup style regatta that anyone could bring their ac75s to...............the difference being the winner of that series wouldn't be part of the DOG race, they'd have to wait another 2 years for a crack at the cup in ak 2024

    though, currently the other teams don't seem to like the idea of being cutout of any DOG race at all!

  4. "the decision that the AC75 foiling monohulls will be used for the next two cycles of the Cup is unusual. Normal practice is to look ahead one cycle only. It suggests they are thinking of relatively quickfire regattas – one in the UK, followed by a more conventional regatta in Auckland in 2024 (if they win in the UK).

    Money is key. Team NZ don't have any left, normal at the end of a Cup cycle. They need funds quickly to prevent key team members being poached by other syndicates and, in a Covid-affected world, sponsorship is harder to find even for skilled fundraiser Grant Dalton.

    So the concept of a Ratcliffe-funded one-on-one challenge in the UK becomes more persuasive. The Cup would be at stake; one-on-one challenges were the norm in the America's Cup before the challenger selection series was born in the 1970s. There is no legal obligation to have multiple challengers; the defender can choose the venue."

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/paul-lewis-is-the-americas-cup-heading-overseas-the-unusual-detail-in-team-new-zealands-government-pitch/7GCZFA5OAACHLM62AKTY2EGTWU/

     

  5. 9 hours ago, Deep Purple said:

    Yeah put it up for grabs at the Isle of Wight with the proviso that if the UK wins they still have to defend it in auckland in 2004. 
     

    unlikly ineos would beat nz given their form in the prada cup final but if they did then they would have no serious racing till the americas cup final whereas TNZ would run through the challenger series in their home town. They might lose that but it would sure attract attention 
     

    I think it would work

    an interesting idea

    i image etnz's  team nz's designer, DanB(ernasconi) hasn't left his successful design team sit idle

    they presumably already have next-gen foils an systems they want to built and test on this boat for the improved hull they would make for the next cycle...........probably they are furiously working on a prada-style 'high mode' below-deck system for the mainsail

    meanwhile ineos would still be trying to get to where team nz are now...

     

  6. The groups will now work together to sort through the finer details of how the defence will look, with a location expected to be decided upon within the next six months,

    and the protocol for the 37th America's Cup schedule to be revealed within the next eight months.

    Some rules have already been established. The event will again be sailed on the AC75 class, with teams only allowed to build one new vessel. The class will be used for the next two America's Cup regattas, and it is a condition of entry for teams to agree to this.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/americas-cup-2021-plenty-still-to-work-out-for-37th-americas-cup-says-ineos-boss-sir-jim-ratcliffe/YQDXJBVYESOI7EARUBOF4PCSQI/

  7. Speaking to NZME, commodore of the Royal New Zealand Yacht Squadron (RNZYS) Aaron Young confirmed that strict new nationality rules would require 100 per cent of crews to be citizens or have spent two of the previous three years in the country they represent.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/americas-cup-2021-royal-yacht-squadron-uk-confirmed-as-next-challenger-of-record-strict-nationality-rules-introduced/M3ZMLLMKZMKHKMYWKHE3B5DMD4/

    Young also confirmed that the next regatta would be sailed in the AC75s foiling monohulls - used for the first time in Auckland.

    "The defender and the Challenger of Record will be investigating and agreeing a meaningful package of campaign cost-reduction measures - including measures to attract a higher number of challengers and to assist with the establishment of new teams," the statement said.

  8. apparently there will be 3 months discussion before final decisions made

    i think there was supposed to be a race in the uk in 2020? but it got covid cancelled

    certainly would be interesting to announce a hype DOG in the uk next year as a preclude to a 2024 race in auckland with the same class boats, you could even give the 'deed of gift race' some kind of point for the 2024? race 

    and would help keep the current teams and some of the shore crew together and involved

    apparently emirates may bail from their etnz sponsorship due to the poor state of airlines everywhere

  9. To move the 37th America's Cup regatta to another location would be a difficult thing to stomach for New Zealand, and especially the Kiwi sailing community who are so proud to have our team win the Cup and host it here in the City of Sails.

    We must avoid another Alinghi fiasco, but at what cost?

    Perhaps the answer is to partner with Ineos Team UK backer Sir Jim Ratcliffe (as is rumoured to be the case) to have the British team become the Challenger of Record for the 37th America's Cup.

    With a sizeable (think of a number and then put a lot of zeros after it) investment from Ratcliffe (Britain's wealthiest man), Dalton and Shoebridge could secure the cash they need to keep their team together and fend off the inevitable offers that their key team members will have put in front of them from other teams.

    If this means that concessions need to be made to secure the deal, then that's preferable to a 2003 situation where the Kiwi team is decimated and left trying to recruit and rebuild.

    One of those concessions could be to allow part of the Challenger Series, or even a one-off America's Cup regatta to be held in the UK.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/americas-cup-2021-auts-sailing-professor-mark-orams-the-costly-conundrum-facing-team-new-zealand-after-beating-luna-rossa-to-claim-the-auld-mug/CJKNESOQUZJPUZCMZN2ZT2DCSU/

  10. central gov promises cash

    conditional on staying here

    The Government has committed funding towards the next America's Cup defence after Team New Zealand's emphatic win against Luna Rossa.

    Future funding will be, however, on the condition that the next defence will be held in New Zealand.

    NZME understands that Team New Zealand's chief executive Grant Dalton and Ineos Team UK owner Sir Jim Ratcliffe have two options on the table for the next Cup defence.

    One is in New Zealand in 2024, but the other which has been discussed is a one-off defence against Ineos Team UK excluding other challengers on the Isle of Wight next year.
  11. https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/americas-cup/124570072/americas-cup-dean-barker-blasts-team-new-zealand-for-looking-to-take-cup-to-uk

    A partnership with Team UK would bring their billionaire backer, INEOS boss Sir Jim Ratcliffe into play, and a radical concept could be part of any deal, according to NewstalkZB.

    The waterfront talk is of a special challenge, as early as next year with Team New Zealand taking the Auld Mug to Britain to defend it in an around the Isle of Wight race to replicate the first America’s Cup battle in 1851 that sent sport’s oldest trophy off to the United States.

    "There's some bizarre stuff going on. The ball's always bouncing in the America's Cup. They are talking about INEOS, I guess would be funding the whole thing. Both teams would go to the Isle of Wight and do an America's Cup like it was 200 years ago," former Team New Zealand star and America’s Cup hall of famer Brad Butterworth told NewstalkZB.

    i doubt the nz public would agree with a 1 and done in the uk...

  12. A - course today

    due they say to more light wind predicted and the ability to clock the course in any direction

    interesting this talk of a 1-off AC in cowes next year paid for by ratcliffe of ineos

    1 race and if etnz lose it the cup is gone?

     

     

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