[Any Farr 1220's languishing in NZ?]

10 hours ago, funlovincriminal said:

The issue I have (and I would wager I'm not the first to suffer this)....

Is that we have a particular trip in mind. Duration 6 months.

 And although we are a family of 4, part of the attraction (read persuader) for getting this endeavor off the ground with my fair lady is the ability to periodically home other entire families with kids for 2 weeks at a time to break up the boredom for the kids and her.

So, myself who would happily go offshore in a Ross 40 or some such now has to look for something that can sleep 8-9, and sustain land folk who don't grasp the concept of not showering every day and opening the fridge every 5 mins, needing to plug hair straighteners in etc etc.

So that sends you into the 50ft bracket. 

Thing is, this may well be a one off trip.

I'm  based in the Weiti, so draft is a concern. (Not flush so we can have a flash boat or a marina - not both)

I'm happy to get a 1020 on and off piles by myself, a 40ft boat wouldn't present any bigger issue IMO. A 50ft plus beast becomes a bit of a burden even without having to haul and maintain.

But living in the islands we are going to need outdoor space, as much as I want a 1220 to work, the small cockpit and sloping coamings even without a wheel attached make for a pretty camped under Bimini experience.

Boat is sound in every other respect. 

Champagne tastes maybe not, but definitely beer budget!

Had a similar dilemma to you . We have a big blended family of 8 with 3 daughters.  Started out Looking at kiwi boats but the standard open quarter berth arrangement doesn’t cut the mustard in the privacy department nor does the one shower , one loo right next to the v berth .  

Went to counselling and got over the hump of only looking at kiwi boats and started looking at French boats , old ones . Wanted around 40 but needed up with probably the oldest bene 50 in nz . It checked out sound but needed a new gearbox , put a new one in myself over 6 weeks and found plenty of other small things to fix along the way . The standout boats we saw in sub 200k were Oceanis 411 (2001) and a Cyclades 43 (2003) the Cyclades was perfect but 20k out of reach and wouldn’t negotiate .

the 50 is certainly exciting to manoeuvre into and out of its berth in breeze or current without a thruster and there’s always plenty of that on our pole mooring . I will get back to you about maintenance $$ next year …

[Nanni N3.21 Glow Plugs]

Yeah Norwoods . Same engine is in kubota tractors and hitachi mini diggers 

[SR26 information/details]

6 hours ago, LE Bb said:

Gary Lambert says he designed them in 1982, and started building the first one ( now Rocky ). the hull moulds were taken off this first hull befre it was turned over

I have a copy of the original boat test which was october 1983.  original specs 7.9 loa 2.87 boa 1180 displ. Note production boats are 7.915 and hull beam without gunnal flange is 2.765. Average dry weight is 1400kg without crew.  original keel was like a young 88 or j24. Mk2 keel was a parallel fin steel fin with fairings and "L" bulb between 380 and 310kg draft drawn for that was 1.85 but most went close to 2.2. We have a new carbon fin with a 460kg "T" bulb.

Yep 1982 , originally called counterpoint .

[SR26 information/details]

I know an older chap who had the first one , think it’s now rocky ? I will ask him when it was built/designed 

[Sydney to Auckland race]

19 minutes ago, waikiore said:

Great to see a NZ entry in this race -with the well sailed old campaigner V5 entered, apart from the Santa Cruz she has a good chance of taking line honours . Only 7 entries at this stage, hopefully they will then all enter the Coastal.

Any idea why V5 didn’t do the transpac this year ? 

[Neat Video Links]

2 hours ago, Black Panther said:

I'm in a motel room in St Paul Minnesota and have a big screen with you tube. Just went through all of these. 

Great thread, keep em coming.

This one takes the cake . Dunno if we will see this calibre of small boat designed and built in nz again 

 

 

[Neat Video Links]

6 minutes ago, twisty said:

This is cool. Great sailing, no carnage

 

 

f*ck that’s awesome !  Never seen that one or any of ragtime . I reckon that’s the most iconic NZ boat , still hauls ass after nearly 60 years 

[Neat Video Links]

5 minutes ago, Psyche said:

 

What a solid crew, the helmsman is very chilled. Cant work out what happened, look like the bow buried and maybe a spreader failed? 

Backstay got a major crank just before so maybe too much so ? 

[Neat Video Links]

One of my all time favourites bit of a slow burner but the tension ratchets up towards the end . The carnage further back in the fleet is worth keeping an eye on  , flares going off and insane wipeouts etc .

 

[SailGP]

Highlight for me was spotting a kiwi boat in the spectator fleet .

 

 

[NZL20 AmCup]

Historical artefact ? 

[Sir Michael et al depart Squadron]

Anyone know what’s happening with the E7s when the new ones arrive ?  Asking for a friend . It would be unfortunate if they end up in Aussie where they already have a heap of them . 

[WMUA - Wed 19 July 7:30pm PCC]

19 minutes ago, CarpeDiem said:

It's fairly easy to set the Berth value based on the current rental value, the projection of historic trends and the term.

Therefore, I think that the correct question, is how does the current rental value get set... ?

It seems to just be - what will the market pay... 

the market has spoken , Div B boats are hitting the market with frightening regularity 

[Pauhia ferry crash]

1 hour ago, Black Panther said:

The best thing anout this thread is tgat my original typo in the heading is still there.

Powheeah

[Pier 21]

13 hours ago, motorb said:

Sounds like Orams is going to have a lot of issues with reverse sensitivity in the very near future.

The whole concept of high end apartments and retirement villages alongside heavy marine industrial sites is just ridiculous. Auckland Council is steadily dismantling the Auckland Marine industry and making no efforts to safeguard it or provide any alternative sites.

Just like the nonsense idea of shutting down the port, only property developers are benefitting from this while aucklanders are paying the price, and places to work and earn good money continue to move offshore.

Ironically the developers are quite the sailors and have done a bit of racing but not as we know it .

[Priced off the poles - what areas to look for a small mooring?]

31 minutes ago, Addem said:

It may not be helpful to an Auckland based boat but looks like t there is lots of capacity at Whangamata as an interim. 

I was going to say the same about whangarei and only half the distance to bay week and a much shorter sail home from the coastal . Added bonus of numerous hardstands within 1 km of each other . 4 pole mooring is approx $1400 PA for an SR sized boat .

[Warpaint Antil foul problems]

38 minutes ago, waikiore said:

I give it a hell waterblast and the rest falls off, achieves two things , a good fresh water rinse-so that it drys properly and the new paint totally adheres -and no build up going forward, aim for every two years-but last time got three  (Westhaven) works even better in the mixed water of Wairau Cove.

The mixed water of Wairau cove is an antifoul in itself 

[SSANZ Triple Series 2023]

2 hours ago, raz88 said:

Were they the blue kite?

They went down the rangi side of the fleet with the pink piedy 

[SSANZ Triple Series 2023]

Have to mention the Ross 650 Sunset Sam totally posting the jandal in this video . Bit of a rough start but ripped through the fleet and pulled past suspect device . Plenty of other action too in the first start .

 

 

[Warpaint Antil foul problems]

Is it still actually “warpaint “ or has wet n forget bought the branding and whacked it on something they get cheap ? 

[Maritime NZ proposed new anchor watch rule enforcement]

Check the App Store there’s quite a few . Read the reviews they are a good indicator , mostly .

[Maritime NZ proposed new anchor watch rule enforcement]

11 minutes ago, ex Elly said:

So I must now keep watch at anchor. I see a vessel approaching on a collision course. I don't have time to lift the anchor and move. What should I do?

  a) sound five blasts on the horn
  b) board the dinghy and row away
  c) don my lifejacket and jump overboard

10 points for the correct answer! 

Mount a GoPro 360 every night so you can prove someone collided with you .

On top of that mount an infrared sensor that’s connected to a horn …just before a boat collides with you the horn should be programmed to give 5 blasts . 
 

I will have a website up and running in a few days to sell above devices , watch this space ! 

[Maritime NZ proposed new anchor watch rule enforcement]

Ponder this angle . Imagine you join a “boating “ club not a “yacht” club but you have a cruising yacht . Imagine said club was affiliated with say Offshore power boating NZ . It would be a bit of a piss off if $30 bucks of your sub went towards a powerboating outfit to do whatever with it , you roll with it anyway because it’s the only boating club in your area with decent facilities .

that’s what our launch owners and cruising boat owners , social , crew members plus juniors face with YNZ whether they like it or not .

[Maritime NZ proposed new anchor watch rule enforcement]

Same here can’t access the rules , only getting overviews .

[Maritime NZ proposed new anchor watch rule enforcement]

1 hour ago, K4309 said:

Yup, the sole reason for YNZ's existence is a copyright issue.

The single thing that keeps YNZ levying our yacht clubs, and us, so much, is that they control the copyright of the racing rules of sailing, via world sailing.

When the Weiti BC moved to withdraw from YNZ, and all the paid staff came and gate crashed out SGM (accept, of course his holiness) the only thing they could come up with that the Weiti BC would miss out on was the RRS. Nothing else. Nil. Zip. Nadda.

Imagine what the launch owners and Ma & Pa cruisers thought of that?

That’s kinda where our club sits . Only 3-4 boats ever enter YNZ sanctioned events yet we pay nearly 10k PA to them . I would happily join another club to retain eligibility to enter coastal etc and save our club major coin .