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Not very good (old) pics, but all I have (attached). Boat is a 25ft storfidra: https://sailboatdata.com/sailboat/storfidra-25

Ok I think I can fix this, but I dont want to be worrying about my fix, if caught out in a storm (and, knowing my fibreglassing skills, I think I would be!). This is port and starboard view of my bow, under the bowsprit, (which I removed yesterday). Its obviously an area under great stress from the sprit, and needs now to to be (re-)built once, and built strong. Paying for a pro seems a small price to pay, so as to not to worry about my own efforts giving way, at an inopportune moment. Any recommendations for someone reliable at HMB/Westhaven, etc, who will turn up when they say they

Yep i saw that they've changed since I was registered on it...it now costs $110 every five years (compared with MNZ's initial $1175, then nigh-on $1000, every five years thereafter). I think the criticisms above seemed much more concerned with cost (particularly of MNZ registry), than bureaucracy gone bad...the general consensus seems to be that the process, although cumbersome, is overcome by the helpfulness of the inspectors...but yes, first hand accounts, good and bad, would be interesting to hear.

Ok. My problem sorted. My swedish boat is going home! $80 for two years, $50 every two years thereafter, full registration, and full international water compliance.... Now I can use the other $1100 the MNZ registration would have cost me for a decent secondhand sat phone and brand new cat 1 epirb....money far better spent.

Have you looked into this, Dtwo? My understanding is that SSR requires deeds of sale for past five years. Deeds of sale not only prove ownership, they also prove that VAT has been paid for the boat in the UK (20% of boat's worth). If it hasn't, registering on the SSR might be more expensive than you think! Would be good to know I'm wrong, as I've got a UK passport hanging around somewhere, with contacts still over there to run addresses from (i also have access to a Spanish passport, and kiwi!), but i excluded SSR on the grounds of the deeds of sale requirement (the previous owner of my bo

Your mate might get a nasty surprise, one day...Dutch registration of the sort you describe him getting is only technically legally valid in EU waters (although such would USUALLY be accepted elsewhere, I'm guessing). Strictly speaking, Dutch registration which is legally valid in international waters is a lengthy and expensive process, requiring full survey, and paying even greater costs, than MNZ extort! Not sure I'd want to risk being turned back, straight after crossing an ocean! Again, things like a full survey are entirely sensible before going offshore. But I would rather pay for a

So I'm calling Maritime NZ out as being a bunch of inefficient useless thieving arseholes cowardly hiding behind some w^$@r law that allows them to blatant rip of NZ recreational boaters. Dump the useless shits and get CAA to run it instead. +2 I really dont see the justification in this cost. In the UK, maintenance on the Small Ships Register costs a whopping one-off fee of $70. What is the justification for MNZ to charge $1000's? It seems punitively expensive, and likely to encourage noncompliance.

I read this on a cruisers forum thread, which seemed pertinent: Epirb, Depending on where you are in the world, Some people push the big red button if they get a splinter in their finger, In the above case, it sounds more like the crew had no faith in the skipper, or in his maintenance schedule (apparently, with some good reason). One of them was a very good friend of his, so mebbe they had good reason to worry! You'd have to ask the question why they agreed to get on the boat, if this was the case, particularly if the skipper "was the only sailor". Smh.

Sheesh. Anyone know what the actual conditions were? 25knots, or gale? (Article says both). Have to say, the vessel sounds pretty unsafe...

Yep you can sail offshore 200miles with most insurance companies...but that's not the same as getting clearance to land at a foreign port... I really dont mind requirements in relation to offshore experience and safety equipment/communications/such like. They're all pretty sensible. And if crew were competent, and a skipper was not, and did not respond to their advice, there would soon be a mutiny. You dont let someone else take a risk with your life. I doubt the situation would arise, as you wouldn't get on a boat, if you didnt trust the skipper?

Thanks. Hmmm. By those definitions, mine is a 'sports boat'. Never would have called it that, myself. But the sportsboat regs only refer to category A and category B, neither of which are offshore categories...

Ok. Was wondering why I couldn't find reference to this, again. Is there a pdf to download with correct information islandtime? Best I could come up was the I spector's checklist: https://www.google.com/amp/s/astrolabesailing.com/2014/03/24/yachting-nz-cat-1/amp/

12m minimum LOA by memory, newer regulation which I read, but cant find it now. I dont have a problem with most cat 1 requirements, which I see as simply reflecting good, safe seamanship. I DO have a problem with a minimum length requirement, (for the obvious reasons, alluded to, above), as well as the ongoing costs of maintaining part B registration, AND the fact that safety certificates are only valid for one month, after issue, which puts undue (and possibly unsafe) time pressure on the whole process (eg, if people may be tempted to risk less clement weather, in order for their safety c

Thanks Jon. How can I find out about that whole other can of worms? (From a nz perspective, rather than from the perspective of the flagged country). I believe my boat may still be registered in Denmark. And how is my experience assessed? Through formal qualification? How can I demonstrate years of offshore sailing experience (which I have), without such?

So registration on MNZ register part B (required) costs $1175, and has to be renewed every five years (anyone know the renewal cost?). If the boat is sold, it terminates, and requires re-registration from scratch. Once this is sorted, it looks like cat 1 requirements apply to any vessel intending to sail offshore (even when not racing). Is a cat 1 safety certificate required for customs and immigration clearance? The reason I ask is that Cat 1 requirements now seem to include a minimum length requirement, which would preclude my little 25ft vessel (which sailed here from Denmark, and

I've got an atoms hanging off the back of my 25ft boat: it had a much bigger windvane before this one (german wind pilot pacific light), and i understand it worked fine. There's a video on YouTube of a previous owner having this one working, on this boat, too...I'm going to try to get her in a mooring at westhaven this weekend (to remove the bowsprit), if you want to come and have a look at it then. If I've got time, I'll be taking the vane off, as well, so I can remachine a rusted through part and get it working again...

Yeah that's crazy, crazyhorse. I think I may give it a go! It's certainly not going to look worse than what's on there atm, and I got loads of spare epoxy and cloth, so why not?

Thanks for the thoughts. Crazyhorse I honestly thought you were taking the mick suggesting epoxying directly on top of canvas...and I like vorpal blade's idea to build the frame out of foam. I might make a hard dodger from scratch though, glassed ply. Easy enough to do, and make it look REALLY bad, though. Very difficult, I imagine, to get something I'd actually be proud of...(even more so, with canvas, I'm sure).

At these prices, I'm liking crazyhorse's suggestion more and more...

The only reference I have is NZD 800, but that was more than 10 years ago in Lagos, Portugal; a dodger replacement onto.pre existing frame, for a narrow beamed 32ft long keel ketch. And I thought that was a bit much, at the time...

How much for the Dodger, chariot?

Boat is at northcote Priscilla II, so westhaven is literally 2 mins motoring away....yeah sailright diy Dodgers seemed steep to me too. Their sail covers are only just over USD200 though, which seems ok. Mebbe I'll get someone to come and quote me up...was hoping to get a rough idea without having to marina moor though....

Anyone know what a reasonable quote might look like for a professionally made small dodger? (Frame is already constructed). The sailright diy one seems a bit dear, when I'm doing all the work, at USD530! Cheers

Oh ok. I didnt know that and I go in there all the time...thanks for the head up.

Thanks.mebbe I'll try HMB for advice. Can't imagine unstepping there though...not sure how much they charge to store masts but probably not for free, as I'm hoping it will be in thames...