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Maybe it's time to bring back sailing, as in real sailing, as part of Navy basic training, including basic navigation.
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New Platino video. The channel has turned off embedding but the link will take you to it. Seems to go quite in depth on how Platino was set up with steering and rigging mechanisms, drawing his own conclusions on the tragedy.
I have no comment myself as I do not feel qualified, wasn't there, and always feel a double-edged sense of sorrow for the families who lost loved ones - versus what can be learned to help mitigate a similar situation in the future, so I just provide the link for those that may be interested. -
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9 hours ago, Clipper said:
I can relate, but holy sh*t thats dull. More exciting racing on a wednesday night race
But isn't that life? Lots of sporting contests that are built up to high expectations turn out duds. But, that makes the humdingers even better, especially when they are unexpected, when there is a great comeback etc. I am getting a bit philosophical now, but I find this a real concern in modern life is that unless every event, sporting or otherwise is some surreal exciting experience, then it is labelled a dud. And that is what I was getting at in my earlier T20 v Test Cricket analogy. T20 tries so so so hard to be an awesome super duper crackerjack experience - but now that the novelty has well worn off, once sees through the cracks that the game itself is the dud because it has tried so hard to cut out all what people accussed of being the 'boring bits' (ie the period between the 15th - 40th over in a traditional 50 over one day game) - but its the boring bits that make the exciting bits even more exciting when they do happen - but, as in real life - not every day can be a life changing experience , most of us are on rinse and repeat in our daily lives, and often sport is no different,
But, now I am off to see my shrink....😄- 1
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They are making the same mistake with AC as they are with T20.
Old AC in the relatively slow monohulls was like watching test cricket, and the frantic tacking and sail changes as you round the mark were the burst of energy like someone hitting a six and taking a wicket in a Cricket Test used to be. It grew on you, and judging by the amount of non boat people right up to the early 2000's that would watch it, was very popular.
However, much like T20 cricket, AC is now just extreme commercialised fast food crap that I wouldn't give a rats backside if I never saw it again, ever.- 3
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1 hour ago, harrytom said:
So boats are training grounds for the big tune orcas chase.
It appears so...
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I subscribe to NYT, and came across this interesting article this morning, and thought it may be of interest. PDF attached because of course the article in the online paper proper is hidden behind a paywall.
Off Spain’s Coast, Orcas Ram a Sailboat - The New York Times.pdf
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1 minute ago, Black Panther said:
Looks like you have a bit of finishing to do once the stairs are finished.
Just a little
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Homicide investigation now. I dunno, sometimes we just have to accept there are - for want of a better term - 'Acts of God' that happen. A hot summer night in Italy, probably lots of hatches open....they are going to try pin the blame on the Captain? Like most of these things there will be lots of little things that contributed to this ultimate tragedy, from the design right through to the localised weather bomb.
One thing that does strike me - a lot of smaller boats went practically unscathed. Take from that what you will, but reinforces to me that a larger yacht is not necessarily a safer yacht. -
6 hours ago, splat said:
Just did two months cruising around Normandy, Southern UK, Isle of Scilly, Wales, Ireland, Western Highlands and Outer Hebrides etc. My Brother was able to run a business MS team meeting no problem, while I sailed the boat around the Lizard, as well as access server documents etc no issue...game-changer for remote-working. Geo-fencing was super-strict up the Irish Sea and in parts of South East England. Awesome for weather, Predict-wind, streaming music, movies, and CFD trading all now readily accessible.
Each to their own, but personally being so connected to the online world via Starlink when sailing is just one step too far to me. When I go sailing I want to escape all that, not have MS team meetings.
That's just me, I respect people that use their time onboard differently and I will probably find that in a few years I am in the minority.- 2
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Both those are on my navionics charts, and I have not updated them for a good 12+ months.
Bit of a worry the lights are not working off Ponui...might be part of you know who's cut backs.
(Don't mention the war, I mentioned it once and I think I got away with it).- 3
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Nav apps seem to be set up to work best on mobile phones and tablets.
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I heard some twat on the Radio yesterday morning (RNZ) being interviewed, saying that licensing boat owners for competency on the water is an absolute must. He completely missed the point that this idiot in Pahia was looking down scrolling his phone going at twenty f**king knots, trying to figure out how to fix something. Just like driving, if you are looking at your phone then you are not fully paying attention, and going at twenty knots with your head down engrossed in your bloody phone is a recipe for disaster. But hey, if the idiot was licensed then that would have solved everything.
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1971 One Ton Cup in Hauraki Gulf
Syd Fischer, Alan Warwick...Stormy Petrel, Young Nick etc- 3
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14 hours ago, aardvarkash10 said:
If we were all rational followers of logic we would all be in share boat partnerships or would hire what we needed when we need it. Or both.
This makes the capital issue null and void, and frees us of most if not all the maintenance drudge.
But yachts are, for many, primarily dreams. While you are building fixing painting maintaining etc, you can express and extend the dream.
Sailing is reality. It often doesn't match the dream, so all that working time delays the disappointment!
My friend was nattering to me one day onboard- he just blurted out "Most people with yachts don't like sailing. That's why you see so many yachts in the marina on a sunny weekend, and why you see those that do sail will only do it between 10-15 knots, otherwise the engine is on as there is either too much wind or too little for the way they "sail".
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35 minutes ago, LBD said:
I was told many years ago... If you want to build a boat then build a boat, If you want to go sailing then buy a boat and go sailing, do not waste all that sailing time building a boat.... and I guess that advice also applies to buying a doer upper, avoid unless it is safe sound and can be enjoyed while you renovate.
I have had a few boats and have many years in the marine industry... so when the boat I wanted came along, I bought it... in the first year I tackled maintenance items that needed doing, but went cruising in between. That still happens now, but there has been a shift from mostly maintenance to mostly sailing... I am happy with the balance.
Thanks for your wee story there LBD.
Do you think though, with the collapse of the NZ boatbuilding industry as far as GRP stock designs go in about the mid 70's, that for those of us with little interest in modern lightweight flyers, and no capital means to purchase or have built a new boat - that we have little option but to by 40 or 50 year old GRP classics that mostly do require to varying degrees of 'do up' ? -
I just posted this on someone's YouTube sailing channel which is really a rebuild channel.
I must have made some good coffee this morning as I think I articulated where I am at reasonably well.
I'll post it below, but I thought it might be a good discussion topic for CrewDotOrgers on their perspectives, even giving some of your own stories if you are comfortable doing that. Anyway, here is my take on it:
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"Over the past 10 years I have refitted a 23 footer, a 26 footer (Contessa 26 - quite a famous design) and now a Twister 28 (semi-famous English design by Kim Holman, the forerunner of Rustler 36's you see in the GGR). I have been able to do this only due to the fact I have no wife, kids, and little regard for money - not always financially the smartest trait to have for sure.
I am pretty sure I am onto my last boat, the one that will finally be my live-aboard / potential offshore capable boat. When I look back I ask myself why I don't just buy a boat a go sailing and accept what comes, and be happy with that. I have come to the conclusion it just is not in my mental make up. I simply "must" put my own stamp on the boat, my own ideas, my own improvements - otherwise I would be miserable. However - there has to be an 'end' point - just as with the happy-go-luckies that just buy any boat, put self-steering on the back and hope for the best (ala Sam Holmes). Both approaches have their pluses and minuses - both are a compromise. But, as I say, there has to be a limit - their will eventually be a tragic end to those that just buying any old four knot sh*t box and go cross the Atlantic and roll the dice, likewise the guy that never stops working on his boat will never actually go sailing. Find your happy place, but find your limit when it gets ridiculous at both ends of the spectrum. See you guys on the water - one day"
If you are interested in the fella's channel I made the comment on - here is the link: https://youtu.be/cwNe8NPCMtk- 1
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8 hours ago, K4309 said:
Sometimes you can waste money paying too little for something. I've found that out buying cheap stuff that is junk / doesn't do the job.
And sometimes the local retailers offer a value proposition with knowledge and advice, not just on price point. Not always. But I do like supporting local owner operators when I get a chance.
I knew about the Nth v Sth when it comes to compasses but totally forgot about it.
Mostly, I have had positive experiences when buying marine gear offshore. I get the "support local" ideology, but I think in 2024 that's gone out the window years ago-- I feel no such inclination to support Burnsco, Smart Marine, or Marine Deals which are all huge players in the NZ that monopolise the marine market. I am not saying you are not right though K4, because they are still NZ companies - I may indeed be part of the problem with my attitude.
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2 minutes ago, ex Elly said:
Make sure it is a southern hemisphere compass, otherwise it won't work properly.
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28 minutes ago, Black Panther said:
I would but I need the funds to go sailing myself.
I think I need to interview and get a tour of Mr Panther's boat. It's bound to get a 100K views and get my channel roaring!
But seriously, the cost of living crisis hits us mariners especially hard. The COLC is a great excuse for NZ Maine retailers to increase their charges.
I purchased a Plastimo compass via 'Waveinn' recently, and even with overseas freight it was $100 bucks cheaper than what any NZ chandler was selling the same item ...
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I see this becoming even more of a bureaucratic balls up than it already is - I will be going for UK reg, as a Commonwealth citizen it is doable for Part A UK, and probably helps that my old girl was registered there originally.
NZ Navy aground in Samoa
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Good to hear.
Btw, Deep Purple one of my favourite bands as a youngster.