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Homicide investigation now. I dunno, sometimes we just have to accept there are - for want of a better term - 'Acts of God' that happen. A hot summer night in Italy, probably lots of hatches open....they are going to try pin the blame on the Captain? Like most of these things there will be lots of little things that contributed to this ultimate tragedy, from the design right through to the localised weather bomb.
One thing that does strike me - a lot of smaller boats went practically unscathed. Take from that what you will, but reinforces to me that a larger yacht is not necessarily a safer yacht. -
6 hours ago, splat said:
Just did two months cruising around Normandy, Southern UK, Isle of Scilly, Wales, Ireland, Western Highlands and Outer Hebrides etc. My Brother was able to run a business MS team meeting no problem, while I sailed the boat around the Lizard, as well as access server documents etc no issue...game-changer for remote-working. Geo-fencing was super-strict up the Irish Sea and in parts of South East England. Awesome for weather, Predict-wind, streaming music, movies, and CFD trading all now readily accessible.
Each to their own, but personally being so connected to the online world via Starlink when sailing is just one step too far to me. When I go sailing I want to escape all that, not have MS team meetings.
That's just me, I respect people that use their time onboard differently and I will probably find that in a few years I am in the minority.-
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Both those are on my navionics charts, and I have not updated them for a good 12+ months.
Bit of a worry the lights are not working off Ponui...might be part of you know who's cut backs.
(Don't mention the war, I mentioned it once and I think I got away with it).-
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Nav apps seem to be set up to work best on mobile phones and tablets.
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I heard some twat on the Radio yesterday morning (RNZ) being interviewed, saying that licensing boat owners for competency on the water is an absolute must. He completely missed the point that this idiot in Pahia was looking down scrolling his phone going at twenty f**king knots, trying to figure out how to fix something. Just like driving, if you are looking at your phone then you are not fully paying attention, and going at twenty knots with your head down engrossed in your bloody phone is a recipe for disaster. But hey, if the idiot was licensed then that would have solved everything.
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1971 One Ton Cup in Hauraki Gulf
Syd Fischer, Alan Warwick...Stormy Petrel, Young Nick etc-
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14 hours ago, aardvarkash10 said:
If we were all rational followers of logic we would all be in share boat partnerships or would hire what we needed when we need it. Or both.
This makes the capital issue null and void, and frees us of most if not all the maintenance drudge.
But yachts are, for many, primarily dreams. While you are building fixing painting maintaining etc, you can express and extend the dream.
Sailing is reality. It often doesn't match the dream, so all that working time delays the disappointment!
My friend was nattering to me one day onboard- he just blurted out "Most people with yachts don't like sailing. That's why you see so many yachts in the marina on a sunny weekend, and why you see those that do sail will only do it between 10-15 knots, otherwise the engine is on as there is either too much wind or too little for the way they "sail".
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35 minutes ago, LBD said:
I was told many years ago... If you want to build a boat then build a boat, If you want to go sailing then buy a boat and go sailing, do not waste all that sailing time building a boat.... and I guess that advice also applies to buying a doer upper, avoid unless it is safe sound and can be enjoyed while you renovate.
I have had a few boats and have many years in the marine industry... so when the boat I wanted came along, I bought it... in the first year I tackled maintenance items that needed doing, but went cruising in between. That still happens now, but there has been a shift from mostly maintenance to mostly sailing... I am happy with the balance.
Thanks for your wee story there LBD.
Do you think though, with the collapse of the NZ boatbuilding industry as far as GRP stock designs go in about the mid 70's, that for those of us with little interest in modern lightweight flyers, and no capital means to purchase or have built a new boat - that we have little option but to by 40 or 50 year old GRP classics that mostly do require to varying degrees of 'do up' ? -
I just posted this on someone's YouTube sailing channel which is really a rebuild channel.
I must have made some good coffee this morning as I think I articulated where I am at reasonably well.
I'll post it below, but I thought it might be a good discussion topic for CrewDotOrgers on their perspectives, even giving some of your own stories if you are comfortable doing that. Anyway, here is my take on it:
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"Over the past 10 years I have refitted a 23 footer, a 26 footer (Contessa 26 - quite a famous design) and now a Twister 28 (semi-famous English design by Kim Holman, the forerunner of Rustler 36's you see in the GGR). I have been able to do this only due to the fact I have no wife, kids, and little regard for money - not always financially the smartest trait to have for sure.
I am pretty sure I am onto my last boat, the one that will finally be my live-aboard / potential offshore capable boat. When I look back I ask myself why I don't just buy a boat a go sailing and accept what comes, and be happy with that. I have come to the conclusion it just is not in my mental make up. I simply "must" put my own stamp on the boat, my own ideas, my own improvements - otherwise I would be miserable. However - there has to be an 'end' point - just as with the happy-go-luckies that just buy any boat, put self-steering on the back and hope for the best (ala Sam Holmes). Both approaches have their pluses and minuses - both are a compromise. But, as I say, there has to be a limit - their will eventually be a tragic end to those that just buying any old four knot sh*t box and go cross the Atlantic and roll the dice, likewise the guy that never stops working on his boat will never actually go sailing. Find your happy place, but find your limit when it gets ridiculous at both ends of the spectrum. See you guys on the water - one day"
If you are interested in the fella's channel I made the comment on - here is the link: https://youtu.be/cwNe8NPCMtk-
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8 hours ago, K4309 said:
Sometimes you can waste money paying too little for something. I've found that out buying cheap stuff that is junk / doesn't do the job.
And sometimes the local retailers offer a value proposition with knowledge and advice, not just on price point. Not always. But I do like supporting local owner operators when I get a chance.
I knew about the Nth v Sth when it comes to compasses but totally forgot about it.
Mostly, I have had positive experiences when buying marine gear offshore. I get the "support local" ideology, but I think in 2024 that's gone out the window years ago-- I feel no such inclination to support Burnsco, Smart Marine, or Marine Deals which are all huge players in the NZ that monopolise the marine market. I am not saying you are not right though K4, because they are still NZ companies - I may indeed be part of the problem with my attitude.
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2 minutes ago, ex Elly said:
Make sure it is a southern hemisphere compass, otherwise it won't work properly.
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28 minutes ago, Black Panther said:
I would but I need the funds to go sailing myself.
I think I need to interview and get a tour of Mr Panther's boat. It's bound to get a 100K views and get my channel roaring!
But seriously, the cost of living crisis hits us mariners especially hard. The COLC is a great excuse for NZ Maine retailers to increase their charges.
I purchased a Plastimo compass via 'Waveinn' recently, and even with overseas freight it was $100 bucks cheaper than what any NZ chandler was selling the same item ...
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I see this becoming even more of a bureaucratic balls up than it already is - I will be going for UK reg, as a Commonwealth citizen it is doable for Part A UK, and probably helps that my old girl was registered there originally.
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I'm awaiting Patreon to approve my page, but in the meantime a lighthearted look at why I am starting a Patreon.
Tell me how pathetic my pitch is, go on, you know you want too 😁
http://www.youtube.com/@junk_rig_sailor1698"Hi there,
In the tradition of the ubiquitous sailing channels popping up here, there and everywhere, I too thought I would join the fun - so have started a Patreon account linked to my YouTube channel.
The reasoning behind this is many fold, but top of mind is that I too want suckers to fund my futre sailing trip plans as I rebuild my boat! I have lots to offer as a diametrically refreshing change from the T&A Thong Wedgie sailing channels. There are too many to fully list, but here are a few of the refreshing reasons you should become a Patreon (or should not) :1. I am middle aged, out of shape guy with a bit of a protruding gut (what the youngsters call 'Dad Bod'), no hair on my head, am bespectacled and look like a fat version of Breaking Bad guy, so am definetly not of the Hollywood good looks club2. I look shocking in a bikini3. My man-boobs are real, not fake4. I am not in a sunny suntan oil inducing location
5. I am not actually even sailing because I am rebuilding an old GRP boat
6. I won't tell you I need the Patreon donations money to buy cameras' to do better filming. Truth is I just use my cell phone as I am too lazy to figure out anything else.
7. My channel updates are haphazard as is my filming and editing quality
So there you have it. For as little as $3 per month, you can be one of the Patreon suckers that instead of funding beautiful people on fancy sailing boats in sunny locales - instead you can fund my dreadful channel. It is an easy choice, surely..."-
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Why was he doing 20 knots? Twenty-bloody-knots? The bloody idiot.
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21 hours ago, Ex Machina said:
Same , very happy with it .
Well joining the Fred Drift in my own Fred..... I have pre-ordered one of these. Was under $400 . Won't be shipped to me till end of August, and then won't be put to serious use until its used in anger post my yacht rebuild / refit -- but I will try to remember to make comments on the robustness of it once it has been delivered.
https://www.joolca.co.nz/products/gottago
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What's the deal with Marine Lithium LiFpO4 when you don't liveaboard? I know that you need a really good BMS.
But what about when you are off the boat for extended periods....do you just switch off your solar so that the batteries don't overcharge - because that, from my very basic knowledge is one of the main "weakness" (that may not be the best word) of Marine Lithium on a boat, is that you do not ever want to overcharge.
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What convinced me it wasn't him, not even a remote chance, not even in this universe - is that even your most novice "sailor" could have explained to the jury that it is impossible for Watson on his boat 'Blade' to have done the boatspeed required to get out the anchorage and sail / motor to the vicinity of where they say he dumped the bodies overboard, and get back to the anchorage in time. His boat would have had to have been capable of 20 knots. It's a sick joke.
There is a heap more evidence against the conviction - I mean the mystery hair that all of a sudden showed up on the third search is a sick joke - and hair analysis is a very, very dodgy "science" in the best of cases - I have read enough about convictions in America being overturned due to the less than ideal veracity of "hair analysis". There are plenty of books out there if you want to get into the specifics of the injustice that has been bought by "hair analysis"..
The guy that should be in jail is Detective Inspector Rob Pope. Frankly that guy is an absolute scumbag. -
Thanks BP, IT, and Carpe for your real life examples. This is where us less experienced guys sit around the virtual campfire and listen to our elders.
Anyone of you ever used a Jordan Series Drogue? Developed if I am correct, by an aeronautical engineer, the theory seems sound and I have read of successful use in survival conditions, with the exception of the girl in the 2018 GG where her line parted - and since her episode I understand you can now order them in Dyneema. -
https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350283327/boatyard-bust-north-shore-yachties-threaten-legal-action
The nub of the issue of the so called "City of Sails" is in the last paragraph:Other haul outs have been closed down at Okahu Bay, Pier 21 and Bayswater, leaving “average boaties” having to pay for luxury yacht marina facilities to comply with environmental rules, proponents say".
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8 hours ago, LBD said:
But then again.. how many black hulled yachts do you see sailing in pommy land actually get to see any sun with any heat?.
Well, Global Warming will fix that. Pommy land be the new Miami? 😆
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10 hours ago, Addem said:
Just looking at the 1050 for sale reminded me to post this.
Two years ago we wrapped our boat dark blue. Looked beautiful. Until bubbles started to appear on the hull. Surveyor tapped and concluded delamination. He said he was working with another boat with same issue.
Long story short and $000's later have just stripped and repainted. Turns out the builder didn't put enough effort into prep between layers and the heat generated by the sun on the dark colour encouraged separation. It occurred mainly in the fairing compound so a lucky escape.
Not really anything to discuss just offering a warning to anyone considering a dark paint job to think about the risks. Wish I'd known.
Sure old style carvel planked boats with caulking in between the planks would usually be painted white, as dark colours were said to attract too much heat and open the planks - but then again I seen plenty of Pommy carvel planked boats painted dark colours.
Had a black hull on my previous boat. GRP 70's built. No delamination issues. I'm no boat builder or technician, and probably prone to 'Bro Science' LOL, but if a dark colour hull is enough to delaminate a Farr built with modern methods, then it was built like sh#t.-
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7 hours ago, Guest said:
If not, just replace with equivalent of what was there.
All that was there previously was a glassed in bilge water tank, itself made of glass.
I am a neophyte when it comes to boat design, but with just a skimpy piece of construction tying that area together previously, I'd say the way the boat is built is already massively strong old school GRP boat building prior to the 1974 Oil Shock (mine is a '72 Twister built by John Tyler of Tyler boat works UK, who incidentally retired to NZ and is still alive, now in his 90's I would say) .
Here is some detail of how the GRP versions were built that I was able to obtain via the 'Twister Association':
The Hull
All hulls were moulded by Tylers. The specification for the lay-up was for a minimum hull thickness of 5/16” rising to at least 9/16” in way of the keel. These are minimum thicknesses and exclude the gelcoat thickness. For example, the after deck on an early glass hull has been found to be a ’12 mm ply core encapsulated between 12 mm glass fibre lay-ups.’ [12 mm is over 7/16”] Another Owner, when fitting cleats to the bow, has reported that the hull to deck lay-up is 1” thick in way of the deck.
Bilge fresh-water tank
A glass fibre tank could be built into the bilge. This was simply a capping, supported by interior baffles over the bilge with a deep sump at the aft end. The aft end was fitted with a small Henderson Hatch for access with the forward end, in some hulls, having a larger Henderson Hatch. This forward hatch is not shown on the original plans. Tank capacity was around 18 gallons with steel ballast and some 33 gallons with lead ballast
Below is a picture of a neatly painted bilge after the tank top had been cut away. The stern, with its deep sump, is to the left.
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