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9 hours ago, Black Panther said:

Yes, those were probably just baffles for the water tank

Correct - 'baffles' - that is the word I was looking for instead of them little thin 'mini bulkheads'!

[Okoume Joubert or Meranti plywood for new boat interior?]

...they were definitely not structural

Seems I should be using 'real wood' not ply for structural floors when I do eventually glass them in?

[Okoume Joubert or Meranti plywood for new boat interior?]

37 minutes ago, LE Bb said:

see where circles are to get the jist of where im questioning

Ah right, they were thin little bulkheads separating various parts of the water tanks...couple taps of the hammer and they broke off..

[Okoume Joubert or Meranti plywood for new boat interior?]

1 hour ago, LE Bb said:

so what we can see in your photo was just floor lands ?

Lands?  Not sure what you mean.

when i cut out the integral water tank, we what is left is what you see in the photo - the keel with no athwartship structural floors supporting the enscapulated keel to the hull…

[Okoume Joubert or Meranti plywood for new boat interior?]

5 hours ago, waikiore said:

Is she one of the Keith Atkinson built Holman boats?

No. This one sailed out from the UK in early 90’s by a solo sailor 

[Okoume Joubert or Meranti plywood for new boat interior?]

9 minutes ago, LE Bb said:

Wasn't much holding them in.

Whats your intentions with the yacht? eg coastal or offshore

What were the original floors made from ? hard to tell scale but looked about 40mm thick

Hi Le , offshore
No floors - purely the integral tank only in that area

[Okoume Joubert or Meranti plywood for new boat interior?]

8 hours ago, Black Panther said:

Did some say varnished plywood interior?

You could host a Town Hall Meeting inside of their....a Gore one at least

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1 hour ago, waikiore said:

Yes the strong athwartship members (usually laminated ) are keel floors supporting the hull and keel attachment. Whats the design?

It’s a ‘Twister’

Kim Holman (UK) design

https://sailboatdata.com/sailboat/twister-28/

 

 

 

[Okoume Joubert or Meranti plywood for new boat interior?]

4 hours ago, LE Bb said:

Our 3 go to's are okoume, yellow cedar, and iroko.

 

When you say structural floors can you give and example, not a place for ply in my mind.

What I mean is bulkheads in the bilge to support the keel because i have removed the integral water tank.., my understanding is the correct boatbuilding terminology for these is “floors”?

Below is s photo showing how looks now with integral water tanks removed.

 

 

[Okoume Joubert or Meranti plywood for new boat interior?]

34 minutes ago, Clipper said:

I have used meranti and okoume on dinghy builds. I understand the meranti is stronger, but the stuff I used had quite a rough grain/less smooth face than the okoume.  It is quite a bit heavier too. but of course, cheaper! Im a bit of a weight nazi on boats, so Id use Okoume, for weight, and nicer finish

I have the opposite problem of you, my boat has NO wood and and I want to keep it that way. so foam, glass, carbon, and white paint for me...

Heh, yeah…I contemplated similar, but as I intend to eventually liveaboard some wood eye candy down below sort of soothing to the eye.., but on deck I will not be bothered to varnish anything methinks…

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9 hours ago, aardvarkash10 said:

I'm picking that the total amount of material is not enough to make either weight or price material overall.

I'd use just one so you can match the tone throughout.  If you are painting, just choose the best grade (no voids, no fill).

Thanks Aard,

Mix of painting and varnish...though that is another question...clearcoat or varnish for an interior?  any opinions? Or it don't matter - whatever you feel looks best?
All this is new to me - if I ask "WTF"? technical questions over time, be aware I am coming from a background of sitting at my desk on me ar$e 9-5, never done a trade and little DiIY...but I can no longer afford to pay people to do up the boats I buy, so I got me a deep learning curve.

[Okoume Joubert or Meranti plywood for new boat interior?]

From what I can ascertain via goggle, Meranti 20% heavier and less bendy, and Okoume Joubert lighter, more expensive....but always good to get a Kiwi take on it...

So I am thinking Meranti for bulkheads and structural floors, Okoume for settee berths, cabinetry / lockers...

Is my thinking sound?

[Rainy day viewing: 1950 world voyage in a Vertue 25']

9 hours ago, waikiore said:

Aurora the double ended Harrison Butler ?

Harrison Butler designed some beautiful boats....

[Bronze Murray Winches with Handles for sale]

Or maybe the Classic Yacht assn....dunno why I didnt think of that before -- I guess I submconsciously assumed they all view crewdotorg too but maybe not!

[Rainy day viewing: 1950 world voyage in a Vertue 25']

Something to watch as the weather heaven's swamp much of the North Island yet again 
 

 

[Bronze Murray Winches with Handles for sale]

No bites - f__k me.  FINAL OFFER:  $180 for the pair, if no one buys them at that price I will drop them off at the nearest scrap metal outlet.

Perhaps the cost of living crisis is really biting after all....

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Practically giving these away now at $200 for the pair:
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/boats-marine/parts-accessories/winches/listing/4115696065?bof=AuLvhz1t
Listing expires lunchtime today, I would prefer a crewdotorger beats a watcher from Trademe, but what will be will be....

[More crazy weather...]

Northland and Auckland getting hammered again.
Pelting down here in the Auckland 'burbs I live.

Extended Metservice has heavy rain and nor'easters as far as their computer models can show ten days hence...

Someone p*ssed off Neptune big time as apart from the odd break, it has been total shyte since January 1st. 

Stay safe crewdot-orgers

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37 minutes ago, aardvarkash10 said:

damn Zoz - thats VERY reasonable.  Surely someone on Waitemata Woodys or in the restoration gig would snap them up?

Yes, I'd say it be a third of what similar sized Murrays have sold on Trademe previously...but I am meeting the market I guess, which at this time seems pretty quiet for anything marine...

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Updated price: $270 for the pair (ie $135 ea.)
(contingent on Trademe watcher not accepting my 'fixed price' offer, which they have 3 days to respond)

[A GREAT STRATEGY for buying a boat or a WASTE of EFFORT?]

37 minutes ago, Frank said:

There's no question in my mind that its cheaper to buy the well equipped and maintained vessel although it can take a while to find one, but there are advantages to a do-up project.

1  At the end of it you will know the boat inside out and all its systems, benefits there if something goes wrong and you might have more confidence in its reliability.

2 You can customize  the little things to your requirements.

3 If you are a creative person there is a satisfaction in the process, almost therapeutic at times (did I just say that !) 

4 The cost is spread over time.

5. If its a particular design you want and you cant find an example that meets your needs then a restomod might be the only option.

In pure financial terms it does not stack up to buy a rundown boat but you can't reduce everything in life to dollars and cents.

 

 

Too right, Frank....and you get the satisfaction of singing 'I Did It My Way' like your namesake when the project is done!  
This is my 3rd boat (my 28 footer), and I want to indeed do all those little things you mention, that is not possible if I leave the interior as it is.  Plus, unlike some people, I can't live with a boat that when I open the locker I see unsightly paint lifting off with patches of bare gelcoat.
For inspiration, check this out:  

 

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Price now $420 for the pair, advert now on Trademe:

https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/motors/boats-marine/parts-accessories/winches/listing/4098611082?bof=Gf7v3Gda

[What is the NZ equivalent of American 1708 fibreglass cloth?]

Forgot to answer BP your query about where putting her - the driveway.
Sure to instill interest from noise control and other nosey council types - but until I get shut down, that's where she will be.

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10 minutes ago, Black Panther said:

1708? That would predate the Civil War.  Look for at something at least made in the 20th century? 

 

Ps where are you putting her to do the work?  I'm pretty sure I saw you in the Tiri channel a week or two back.

Last time I was in Tiri channel was in January it was gusting 30+ wind against tide and very lumpy.
If you saw my black hulled yacht in Tiri just a couple weeks back, then that would be the new owner sea trialing her.
I've fully accepted 3-4 years hard labour rebuilding my new (but old) boat.

[What is the NZ equivalent of American 1708 fibreglass cloth?]

4 hours ago, harrytom said:

Have you tried NZ fibreglass in panmure

Have googled thanks harry.  Reasonably close to me..depending on how many road cones.

I have done a bit more investigating on 1708 via the interwebs, and seems that's a reference to 17 Ounces = 481 grams.  NZ seems to sell this biaxial stuff in either 400 or 600 grams, and then either with or without the chopped strand backing.

I plan to use this for the structural areas of the boat.  I am now discovering not all FG cloth is the same.  Steep learning curve, but all good fun.