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The punk on the powerboat needs the book thrown at him.
He can defend himself in court, no problem with that -- we are a modern democratic nation with the whole "innocent until proven guilty" thing as much as sometimes we feels things are cut and dried
However, no matter what evasive action the ferry "shoulda coulda woulda" taken, the stinkpot was obviously exceeding the confined waters speed limit which massively contributed to the eventual impact collision with the resultant life threatening injuries to the ferry skipper.....if found guilty there just has to be some very serious consequences if not jail time. -
I have literally just taken these off the boat I am refurbishing and are for sale. No issues with them that I can see, appear to be in good condition.
They are 130mm in height, about 150mm in width to the outer lip and come with handles. Handles are just under 360mm long
Using what I have seen over the years for these Murray winches on trade me as a guide, offering them for $275 ea, or $480 if you take the pair.
Not willing to post, so prefer an Auckland buyer to pick up, though if you are not in Auckland perhaps a mate visiting can pick up.PM or mob: 0220 485 474.
Disclosure: One nut and washer missing off just one of the bolts, and when I took the first winch off I - thinking that is what I had to do take it off (ie - unscrewed the cover off it's inner base), I can't quite get it to sit flush on its base when I put it back together, but that's just the little jaw things need to be aligned correctly and then all is well. If you know what you are doing you will sort that in two minutes flat.
Second one (closest in the first picture below) I left screwed together and just pulled it off the teak platform it was on, intact, so didn't have to try to screw it down again.
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Would they throw sailboats in with the power boats in any licenscing/registration?
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Oh my god..he has passed away...
Is it too early to ask how the hell can some f__king idiot in a power boat could not see the Ferry.
Edit: are we 100% sure he has passed? I just listened to a news report on Radio NZ and they are saying he is "critically injured" but they did not say he had passed?-
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Is it just me, or are we experiencing months of sh#t weather more than usual. Summer was a write off, and it doesn't seem to be getting much better, albeit winter approaching. It's probably as bad as it's always been - this is NZ, the land of four seasons in a day, but sheesh can't someone go for a sail and get some decent weather to get going, including the Solo Tasman guys / girl...
Ah well, I guess that is why we have some of the best racing sailors in the world...our weather demands it.
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14 hours ago, Enlightenment said:
MANY THANKS!!!!!
Imagine if I hadn’t had these conversations, I would be a lot further up delusion creek and I am now. I’m becoming painfully aware of the extent of the bureaucracy and regulations in New Zealand.
I know the days have long gone when you could nail together a ferro cement boat with chicken wire and hope and head off overseas. Perhaps it is a karmic relationship, does anyone remember the French Canadian guy that built a ferro yacht and attempted to sail to Australia only to crash into a reef on the way? It was big news at the time 50 years ago, but it was instrumental in changing the rules. He and his crew, all inexperienced, snuck out of Auckland harbor without permits, thinking they could just sail away unprepared and get away with it. In those days they probably would have gotten away with it if they hadn't run onto the reef where I think there was mutiny and death. The boat owner lived in my aunt’s house 200 m from me, I remember him well and his enthusiasm was quite intense.
The reason I don’t appear to be very decisive is that my foremost motivation to access the environment far outweighs being the owner of a boat. I really love sailing and boat life but I am willing to use other methods if the boat is unviable. I would be a great owner because I’m very responsible and capable of doing maintenance. My primary focus is on getting access to and remaining in remote places to do creative work and it seems the boat option is by far the most logical and functional way to achieve that end.
Originally, I had planned to live on the house bus and park it near the locations then use a 3.8 m inflatable and a 20 hp outboard motor to gain access. But I feel the yacht option would nestle me in the heart of the environment where I could live remotely for longer periods of time which is in line with my aims for writing and videography and photography etc but still having living facilities Internet access and an office. Of course, I need to make compromises to find workable options.
Frank
Are trailersailer boats subject to the same regulations as Marina and moored yachts?
Perhaps I can find a loophole by living on the bus and doing missions on the trailersailer while keeping it on rented moorings when I move from location to location.
What I need access to Marina’s, Maybe not? Not sure.
Mattm
The electrical systems on a boat are extremely simple although, although they don’t seem that simple to Joe public. I do get your point about compliance and plugs. Chinese plugs are exactly the same as New Zealand plugs and have the same compliance.
I’m thinking to disconnect all outdated electrical systems if necessary and use modern plug-and-play foldable portable solar panels and power stations to plug appliances directly into, which I feel should meet regulations because they are not hard-wired into the boat.
The only gas appliance I need is a cooker, does that need to be hard fitted, specified distance to the bottle or can it have flexible rubber hoses as in a home installation? Whatever the case this cannot be extremely expensive even if it has to be certified.
As far as the plumbing goes if it is outdated which I doubt, this could also be portable and shouldn’t need a hard installation.
I actually have very little idea what it takes for a boat to be insured apart from it passing a survey. We need a VHF hardwired to the ships battery? Can navigation equipment simply be a laptop or cell phone? All this is very very simple stuff and certainly not rocket science, although the tradesperson wants you to believe it when they charge you their rate to certify, which is fair.
My main concern is gaining access to locations where I can live aboard the boat, I don’t know if I can legally proceed on the water without insurance and sidestep going to the Marina altogether by living on the mooring. I have yet to establish if I can do antifouling in boat yards and what level of compliance I need to follow to meet their requirements. I’m certainly not trying to avoid taking responsibility, it’s just that I don’t want to pay needless expenses as the function of the boat is not a gin palace.
The backup generator would be a very small petrol generator in a sound-insulated box and would only be used on very few occasions when I’ve anchored far away from others in remote locations on days when it’s cloudy and the very robust solar was exhausted, perhaps I would need it to upload some files to the Internet to meet a deadline. Health issues are negligible.
Zozza
Good point, I am somewhat green when it comes to purchasing a boat in New Zealand even though I have done a reasonable amount of sailing in the past and as a lifetime design and industrial professional have done plenty of wood and fiberglass boat work and carried out refitting work on super yachts.
But if I was naïve I wouldn’t be having these conversations with you experienced owners and sailors.
Wow, 100K is a lot to spend on a small boat, but yeah, I get what you’re saying that it’s a potential trap waiting to happen to the unwary, we can learn fast when it’s too late.
Panther and the rest of you guys have given a lot of such valuable advice.
Pretty much most of the common (not high-end) Marine components and fittings are imported from China and they are the same very good quality available in the New Zealand market.
When people say Chinese rubbish they actually mean badly sourced products by importers! Yes there’s a lot of crap made and sold to the unwary in China but also all the good stuff is manufactured here too.
I agree the certified components probably need to be sourced locally for compliance reasons but the rest of it can be imported. There is a hell of a lot of work you can do on a boat yourself without the need to use a tradesperson and if the work is not good enough it will be revealed in the survey.
If my boat was a 25' Noelex or similar trailer sailor on a good trailer, basically a plastic box with good sales and rigging and whatever portable components I wanted to put inside it for navigation and foldable portable solar panels and PowerStation and portable appliances. Would this boat setup need to pass all kinds of regulatory hurdles? Would even need to have a survey to be insured? Again I'm not trying to be a Responsible I'm just trying to achieve my goal.
Thanks again.
If you have labour skills, woodwork fibreglassing skills, you are ahead of the game if you want to do a "do up"... it will still be expensive but maybe you won't have to busk till dawn with your ukulele
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And here I am - damn fool - about to embark on doing up a old 28 footer! But I have learnt some DIY skills....the hard way. Don't follow in my footsteps, unless you like being poor
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As someone who over capitalised a 26 foot boat by about, oh....$100K, guys like Panther and Mattm are speaking the truth.
You sound, with all due respect, green as grass - much like I was 7 or 8 years ago. EVERYTHING ends up costing you DOUBLE if not TRIPLE what you think it will - and yes, you will be paying NZ's exorbitant prices for everything from paint to rope to fittings - everything marine (if you want quality) is damn expensive in NZ. Even the chinese sh#t fixtures and fittings sold by a lot of Chandlers is expensive.
Save up $60 - $70K and buy a nice comfortable 28 -32 footer, which some other fool has spent tens of thousands on to bring up to spec.-
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Reigniting this after a year to see if anyone knows of a NZ Distributor or sort of a contactor that can import Alexseal paints, or if your only option is to get imported yourself via the Aussie distributor?
I don't mind paying a bit more if I don't have to faff about with the import paperwork.
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Holy SH*t ALib did not realise boats like yours at DYC were hit. My commiserations mate.
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18 hours ago, Ed said:
From memory, that microburst also picked up a yacht of around 30-35 foot in a berth in X pier I think it was, and dumped it back down, smashing it up pretty good
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Just. read it. Disgusting rich pr*cks at Akarana huh. That's the feeling I got from that article. I'm sure there are "two sides" but don't think I will be joining Captain Piddlemarks at the Akarana Christmas Dinner this year old chaps.
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On 8/03/2023 at 5:17 PM, waikiore said:
I still believe that something has been lost , since those early days-the romance, the adventure,the parties, 29 competitors coming in to Auckland -crews staying on board unless they got lucky ! Not rushing off to the dietician and gym. Four boats currently racing......
I have Digby Taylors book, 'One Mans Dream' and it is really a great read
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NZ Tiger....Yeah the big boats big Cat Condos, eg La Vagabonde....I have never seen the attraction sailing wise. Good on 'em, they are earning big money, and getting great deals on these boats to sail where they want, and I guess her being attractive, along with reality Tv type (ie not real) drama, draws people in.
But, they do less thnt zero of interest to me - but takes all sorts, so again, not going to begrudge them and similar channels.
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14 hours ago, Black Panther said:
Never heard of him.
I doubt indeed he would show up on Youtube recommendations!
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When does low budget cruising become an irresponsible hazard to others? First Sam leaves his 'free' boat unattended with inadequate ground tackle, and it goes for a wander. His attitude was "Well the area I anchored was full of abandoned boats, so who cares"
Then in the next vid, he runs aground on a beach.
Apparently a year before we took a small hobie cat I think, from Florida to Bahamas with a chicky babe crew, and just left the wrecked vessel on a beach when he ran into difficulties.
I'm torn - I've run across the plummed voiced "Yachtsman" or 'Captain Piddlemarks' type who think their brown stuff don't stink, and tsk tsk any solo sailor who doesn't do things 'according to Hoyle' (, but I also think this Sam fella is starting to behave like an idiot because his recent actions show little consideration for others as far as potential damage to environment by ditching a plastic boat such as that Hobie on a beach, and possibly damaging other peoples boats with p*ss poor ground tackle while he jets off to Norway for some skiing with another chicky babe.....all this perhaps makes desk bound tools start to put together legislation with all sorts of new 'rules' to make it harder to go out there and live free as able on the water.
So, I'm a bit torn - I want to get out there one day and sail to some of the places solo that he has....but I want to avoid "tool time" decisions that he is making. But, there is always a chance even the most experienced Yachtie will make an eff up or two - so I am wary to get on me High Horse...
He is getting shellacked on Sailing Anarchy forums and in a lot of the comments on his channel - but just doesn't seem to care.
Anyway, thought it be a good topic for other CrewDotOrgers to discuss from a Kiwi point of view...
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41 minutes ago, Rangi1 said:
I’m happy to answer them Zoz, as it didn’t say to stick a root vegetable up every exhaust. It was in response to a particular sub-section of boat owners that run their generators all night. I’m sure a small number of yacht owners also run their engines to charge the batteries and get the water hot.
Ok fair enough Rangi...I'm calmed down a bit and hopefully a few others have too. I was actually taking the Michael a bit with my generalisation, and even thought about deleting my post couple mins later early this morning, but started work, and forgot about it - then saw the pile on, and got a little testy.
As someone said, there's has been more serious things going on recently - lets just put it down to blokes letting of steam, me included.Cheers
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8 hours ago, harrytom said:
Go for a swim and jam a potato in the exhausr
8 hours ago, harrytom said:On 12/02/2023 at 1:07 PM, SHK said:What is it about launchies and generators? Anchored in Bon Accord last weekend, a launch anchored about 50m away and as soon as main engines off, it's generator on until his bed time. Then in the morning, routine is wake up, generator on, left on until anchor up. Have these guys never heard of batteries? Another time a launch anchored about 20m upwind of me, started his generator and then the whole crew went across to a neighbouring boat for the evening. They just seem oblivious to the nuisance they create
SHK and Harry - gotta say this is a bit rough on launch owners - they are not all like that, some of them don't buzz with the generators all night . You shouldn't generalise. Naughty naughty.
Does it say more about you guys than them? Maybe ask Rangi1.-
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1 hour ago, BNG said:
Plenty of top yachties and designers own launches mate.
And they didn't get there on their junk rigged racing boats.
Well done, good for you, and a absolutely fair comparison with a junk rigged, heavy displacement, non racing folkboat clone .
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1 minute ago, Clipper said:
Dig up bro
Yeah bro will bro thanks bro
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Here we go -- Harrytom calling for 'Regulation' due to this Riveria' antics - and that's after Psyche (the new site owner?) called stinkpot owners "the preponderance of giant launches purchased by people who are morons...."
So, I am going to be little stronger in my reply to you guys in this thread that piled onto me - go get stuffed and apply your same 'outrage' to everyone else that may have used generalisations - FFS.
Cheers
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Wow. Weird. The number of members on here that have complained about Pillocks in Riverias and the like , be it exceeding the speed limit, creating unneccesary wake, almost hitting your yacht...you guys even started and conrtibuted to a thread about it:
I think it says more about you lot than anyone else.
Edit: Ok, yeah yeah, if you didn't directly contribute to that particular Pillock thread, then good on yah, but you know what I am saying -- it's been open season on stinkpot boaties in that thread and on Crew.org in general about stinkpots -- so, frankly, I find your little whinging about me calling a spade a spade about boaties in stinkpots hypocritical BS.
Cheers-
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7 hours ago, DrWatson said:
Always frustrated by reporting like this that uses the term "Boatie". Conjures up images of a dude in a tinny wearing shorts 'n a T-shirt.
And then comments such as "...reminding boaties to stay off the water", which again somehow suggest that the skipper was a fool for going sailing rather than being more precise and pointing out the circumstances of this event were not "a boatie popping out for a fish".
I wonder if someone is swept out to sea in their house, are they called a boatie?
You forgot the "beer in one hand, fishing rod in the other"
I too detest the 'Boatie' term. I detest 'Boaties' full stop. I have no respect for anyone on a stinkpot.
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2 hours ago, Ex Machina said:
Coromandel will absorb it for those areas but Te Aroha will get absolutely nailed once it gets a bit of southing
The whole vid below is worth watching, but at 2:49 , Phillip Duncan basically backs that up Ex M as to why Auckland has dodged the bullet so far.
This is his latest update just bought out a few mins ago
What is the NZ equivalent of American 1708 fibreglass cloth?
in TechTalk
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I'm starting to make a list of all the materials I need for my big rebuild (DIY this time, not paying a professional if I can help it).
I think I want the version of 1708 that has chopped strand on one side.
As with a lot of reading I do, I'm reading about an American rebuild of a similar GRP yacht, and of course its all American products...
Cheers