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3 hours ago, aardvarkash10 said:
Suitable barge, $250,000
assume $0 value at the end of 10 years
Staff, 4 @ 75,000 pa, $300,000
Operating days per year, 150
Daily plant operating cost inc maintenance allowance, $2000, $300,000pa
Licences, fees etc, $2000 pa
Legals and accounting, $10,000 pa
Gross daily cost, no alliance for capital, profit line, tax etc, say $4500
1400 wrecks, projected 10 year period so 1 per day average
High risk activity, time limited, no exit strategy so 150% nett profit would be reasonable.
Each wreck would be in the region of $12 to $15k average to make it work.
Maybe the mooring service guys might take it on, but it's not money for jam.
I'll clarify, it's not viable as a standalone business, it would depend on the details of the contract with the council. There are many businesses that are based on non market subsidies and this would be one of them.
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Intellectual property? Ok but tightly held by a government organisation that sets standards? Essentially, we're paying for the Information twice.
I'm pretty sure the standards related to lithium battery installation are not rocket science, we essentially know what needs to be done but the specifics of it are not publicly available unless you pay.
A good an analogy would be an act of parliament, publicly available and with a bit of effort you can understand the gist but to interpret the nuance, you need a specialist
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Try getting the standards to see what's required if you want to DIY or just to get your existing LA system updated as per the regs, they are all paywalled which I think is self defeating if you want people to comply with them.
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On 4/07/2025 at 8:38 AM, aardvarkash10 said:
3500 moorings. 40% abandonment rate currently. So 1400 potential hazards to be removed somehow - sale, or removal. Sale is likely just a deferral, not a solution.
Even if the HM is overstating the problem by 50% and actual abandonments are "only" 700 in number, 2% disposal rate wouldn't even keep up with the natural inflows to the problem.
1400, that's a great little business right there. You could dispose of the bulk of the smaller shitters very efficiently, as many a day as you wanted if you had the resources it's not an unreasonable 3-5 year project.
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3 hours ago, aardvarkash10 said:
Mooring fees don't pay for that though. There is no part of the fee set aside for this. The fees essentially go into council's consolidated fund and then the HM is funded from that. No special jar labelled "getting rid of old shitters fund" that only gets income from mooring fees.
We pay for all sorts of questionable stuff like 600,000 scrap bins and the entire collection/processing chain. Someone thought it was a good idea and we are paying for it, so we can certainly remove a few boats every now and then. Alternatively we could just tow them outside the environment and sink them.
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47 minutes ago, Murky said:
I don't have a dog in this fight but as well as assuming the total number of moorings in Auckland, your equation also assumes that all of the owners are keeping up-to-date with paying their annual fees.
The owners that have abandoned their boats at the mooring (or a proportion of them) won't be - they've put their heads in the sand and are pretending they don't own a boat and not opening any mail/emails that look like they might relate to that fact. There's a lot of 'em everywhere, and as and when they are forced to face facts, they sell their boat to someone the same, or with even less of an idea what they're getting into.
A lot of owners are dead or aged out, some people are at a loss at what to do with dads boat. The point is that we live in a society thats fixated on user pays but if people can't pay then they wont pay so we need to spread the load. It's not a crisis, its a 1st world problem and we have the funds to remove hulks so its just a case of political will.
Just call it a green transition thing and the money will appear 🤣
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My mooring fee fresh in my inbox is $367- not quite sure for what exactly? Last mooring maintenance fee was 3200 which is next level for a few metres of stud link chain and a swivel but what can you do since they just send you the bill.
I helped a wooden boat get crushed, took about 90 minutes, theres a truck with a hiab that gets stuck in. They sell the lead and the metal parts for scrap so its not all a lost cause. A big glass boat would be hard work though.
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Who needs extras?
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Aimed at the US market, I guess if you're a Floridian the Bahamas are like Gt Barrier is to Aucklanders. I bet the Barrier economy would love a visiting boat fee so lets not give them ideas
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On 20/06/2025 at 6:43 PM, eruptn said:
Every high level sportsman understands that the best time to sell is when their stock is high, good for him. Moreover TNZ like all successful organisations is more than one person.
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Heres a good job with some basic glassing skills https://www.pbo.co.uk/expert-advice/how-to-make-a-boat-fridge-step-by-step-78660
the lid
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Thanks for posting this, a good read. It is a very well run race with excellent structures in place but offshore racing can be lethal. Boom or mainsheet strikes can and do kill, helmets do pretty much nothing once loads are up. Very interesting read about the MOB having to quick release his LJ underwater, the pros and cons of QR systems etc. Got me thinking about my spinlock tether which TBH would be a marathon effort to release if it was even possible under pressure. The takeaway- carry a good knife that is easy to unsheathe.
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Following with interest, we have the same situation where the engine driven system is at end of life like many must be now. 44 years old, the copper lines are corroded, ongoing expensive repairs including hoses and rebuilt compressor and finally the last straw needing yet another re-gas and drier. We are definitely going electric its just how we go about it with options ranging from a cheap Jaycar box to an Ozefridge setup.
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So are are an ai bot then 🤣
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The good news is that the front didnt fall off
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That may well be true, I'm sure at least some were already used as mooring areas with marina development being a response to organic demand. Whereas this seems to be more of a "a build it and they will come" scenario. Not saying it should or should not go ahead and generally marina's are a positive development but there needs to be consultation among the stakeholders.
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Fast tracking may be appropriate for important infrastructure that's in the national interest but development of private recreational facilities is something that needs consultation with the various stakeholders, it may take time to review the issues and it may not go ahead. We are a democracy after all and the seabed is public property, I am not opposed to any proposal for marina development per se but the developers cant simply bulldoze or sidestep the process because its inconvenient.
This also seems an odd place for a marina, it appears to be aimed Aucklanders with holiday homes in the Bay who will keep large boats there i.e it will have almost no connection to the local community yet it's the locals who will have to live with it for generations.
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Who uses the term sailboat in NZ? Ai content leaves clues, we seem to be heading into a place where online discussions will be between my Ai bot and yours lol!
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7 minutes ago, K4309 said:
I'm sorry, but are you using a bad AI generated graphic to make a political point?
You make it sound like a boat has actually sunk. It's a computer generated render FFS.
"Sailboat" Ai is insidious
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Clearly they should ban storms in the area
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15? Amateurs...
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At that price, I would definitely be trying a repair! What kind of boat are they from, they must be pretty big.
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17 hours ago, Guest said:
Ivermectin? Is that what is in sheep drench? It is suppose to fix everything. According to some anyways.
Like spike proteins, cancer, cytokinetic storms.
Bleach! Trump uses that and his ass is never clean.
I want to try west with 33/33/33 Cu powder, Cu2O & PTFE powder + 15-20% solvent, on a test panel.
Like an easier to clean and fresh batch of cuprous oxide on each light abraid. Cu for longevity.
Too bad when you want to recoat.
Mind comes up with odd ideas whilst on the end of RO.
Yes, ivermectin can be an effective slow-release antifouling agent, particularly against barnacles. It's being explored as a substitute for traditional, more toxic biocides in marine antifouling coatings due to its environmental friendliness and efficacy against parasites. Ivermectin-loaded coatings have shown promising results in preventing barnacle colonization, both in lab tests and on actual yachts.-
Research:Studies have shown that rosin-based coatings loaded with even small amounts of ivermectin (0.1% w/v) can be highly effective in preventing barnacle colonization, with protection lasting for multiple fouling seasons, according to ResearchGate.
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Potential:The ivermectin/silyl acrylate copolymer coating has been identified as a promising alternative to traditional marine antifouling materials, according to ScienceDirect.
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Barnacle Resistance:Ivermectin has been shown to be effective against barnacles, particularly Balanus improvisus, according to Taylor & Francis Online.
This is called taking the law into one's own hands, its vigilantism against bottom hugging greeblies 😁
It's what happens when there is a failure in policy which is unacknowledged and a need to take action, I have no doubt that if there was a glow in the dark additive that was easily available such as tributyltin, people would use it.
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Lithium conversion
in TechTalk
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For another discussion so we don't get side tracked, I still dont agree that public standards should be behind a paywall. Once upon a time you could go the govt bookshop behind the St James and get or order pretty much whatever publication by any ministry for a nominal fee.
Thanks for the library tip CD, you're right we have a pretty good idea of what and how.