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No mention of stopping Customary rights?
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Proposed temporary fisheries closure of Great Barrier Island (Aotea Island) and nearby islands
Tēnā koe,
The Motairehe Marae Trust, supported by iwi trust board Ngāti Rehua Ngātiwai ki Aotea, has requested a temporary closure to the harvest of scallops, pāua, and rock lobster, from the fisheries waters within 3 nautical miles of:- Great Barrier Island (Aotea Island)
- Little Barrier Island (Te Hauturu-o-Toi)
- the Mokohinau Islands
- Simpson Rock and Horn Rock.
The request is for a 2-year closure.
After the request was made, the Northland Scallop Fishery (SCA 1) and Coromandel Scallop Fishery (SCA CS), which include the proposed area, were closed to commercial and recreational scallop fishing under section 11 of the Fisheries Act 1996. The Motairehe Marae Trust Board wish to continue with their request to prohibit the harvest of scallops, pāua, and rock lobster to establish their tino rangatiratanga in the decision-making process.
The closure request and map can be found at the links below.
The letter from the Motairehe Marae Trust requesting the closure
Map of the proposed closure area
Related Great Barrier Island Controlled Area Notice
The proposed area includes a Controlled Area Notice that Biosecurity New Zealand placed on Great Barrier Island to minimise the spread of exotic Caulerpa species. This includes Blind Bay, Tryphena Harbour, and Whangaparapara Harbour. A temporary closure would have no effect on any Caulerpa Controlled Area Notice.
The Controlled Area Notice is in place until 31 October 2023.
Controlled Area Notice for Great Barrier Island
Your views sought
Fisheries New Zealand invites written submissions about the proposed closure from people who have an interest in the species concerned or in the effects of fishing in the area concerned.Making your submission
The closing date for submissions is 5pm on 21 August 2023.Email your submission to FMSubmissions@mpi.govt.nz
While we prefer email, you can post your submission to:
Spatial Allocations
Fisheries Management
Fisheries New Zealand
PO Box 2526
Wellington 6140.Please pass this on to anyone that may be interested.
Nāku noa, nā
Recreational Fisheries
Fisheries Management | Fisheries New Zealand – Tini a Tangaroa
Charles Ferguson Tower | PO Box 2526 | Wellington | New Zealand
Web: fisheries.govt.nz
Contact us about Recreational Fisheries recreationalfisheries@mpi.govt.nz
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2 hours ago, Romany said:
full cream milk. actual coffee, sugar if i feel like it, full bodied red wines, blue vein cheese, steak n kidney pies - all the good sh*t.
now you're talking,still some die hards left .thank goodness,thought I was on my own🙃
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a quick google and yep need to remove old ablative first, never trust a sales person
https://www.wetandforget.co.nz/pages/warpaint-faqs
Which antifoulings can WAR PAINT be applied over?
The hard types present no problems, provided, of course, that the existing system is sound. A wet sand is necessary to prepare the surface for recoat – any defects must also be repaired as necessary. Existing antifoulings of the “soft” type should, in general, be removed. This is to prevent the possibility of the soft system from clearing or suffering cohesive failure beneath the harder, stronger product. Should the soft system not be removed, failure on recoat is not guaranteed – indeed soft systems have been recoated with good results in the past, but the chance of problems is significant. -
1 hour ago, itzgreg said:
Yes I agree........but one helluva job. Certainly wouldnt use Warpaint again after getting treated like an idiot when I asked them for their comments on what may have caused the problems. They did repeat that Warpaint is perfectly compatable with No5 and that was about the extent of their involvement . Basically they blamed me even though I have been boatbuilding and applying anti fouling for over 60 years without problems....20 years of which involved professionally applying anti fouling.
I know things go wrong for various reasons but my main disappointment was in Wet & Forget's attitude when I tried to talk it over with them.they just didnt seem to give a toss!..
But thanks for your comments.much appreciated.
A case for consumer affairs comes to mind,maybe go back to wetnforget and mention its a breach of the fair trading act,never know they may come to the party. nothing to loose, Its based on a sakes person saying that it compatiable. Verbal stands
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Most of us do a sort of anchor watch, generally do a check of warp and position before retiring ,I wake up at least twice and do a general check, but as for 24/7 watch I still claim the intention is for commercial more than recreational. As most recreational are anchored in bays/harbours with other vessels, commercial more likely(when not fishing) may anchor in remote places .
My last insurance policy quite clearly stated that insurance covered anchored providing it was not left for more than 24hr period unattended, unless on its usual mooring/marina.
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Anchor watch,would your chart plotter with anchor drag app be on watch? Had a garmin thing a few ago,set to anchor watch and got up turned it as boat swung ,alarm would go off.
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1 minute ago, CarpeDiem said:
Which is why we have a judicial system that determines legal meaning.
Do you think that any rights should apply to your vessel while it is anchored?
- If your boat, while anchored, collides with another anchored boat, how should liability be apportioned?
- Should the portion you pay change because say the occupants of the other boat are ashore walking on the beach?
- Should the portion you pay change if the other occupants are asleep downstairs and you couldn't wake them as you tried to stop the collision?
If you were anchored ahead and dragged down on to another vessel,you would be at fault in my mind,as you cant drag to windward.
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interesting article of a lady who at 103yrs old is still hauling crayfish commercially.
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looking at it .I would commercial at this stage.
Maritime NZ has recently shared the interpretation as: “At all times – during the day, during the night, when travelling to and from fishing grounds, fishing, while at anchor, or drifting.”
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On 26/04/2023 at 6:55 AM, Frank said:
You have a point there harrytom LegaSea presents a spurious argument against the idea of reporting recreational catch, it seems whats good for the Commercial Fisherman should not apply to the recreational one ..... hypocrisy ?
Quote" To throw away a tried and true method of estimation in favour of something that may never produce what we are hoping for seems foolish and irresponsible. Millions have been invested in developing our current method and to walk away from that would be a terrible waste of valuable resources."
A Tried and True method of estimation" seems like an oxymoron and the defense of the current method based on the "millions spent on it" seems like a Sunk Cost fallacy ie we have spent so much on it now that we must continue so as to justify all that expense.
https://legasea.co.nz/2017/04/05/feasibility-of-reporting-recreational-catch/
Well "Farnk" yesterday I made a comment on the "Legasea" facebook page and now have no access to them,not the first to cop such a ban,dont like peoples view points if it goes against there thinking. They are the ones who want public funds so surely public input is important,right or wrong?
There many good ideas around from both commercial and recreational but it seems its all left to few people running "legasea" and its there way or no way.
Oh the comment. They were saying how much free fish heads have been given away and I read recently how "sanfords" had donated x amount to the project. No mention by "legasea" of "Sanfords" generosity, and merely pointed it that they should be thanked as well. Never mind each to their own.
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Despite the orcas pushing up against or in at least one case ramming into the boat and nudging or biting at the rudders, there were no injuries or damage to the boats.
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8 hours ago, K4309 said:
But they don't have a requirement for boats to be sea-worthy on moorings.
correct but Auckland does have bylaws which one would thought would be enforced by the harbour masters
The Bylaw seeks to achieve this in Part 2 by specifying general responsibilities of persons within navigable waters and the following specific responsibilities about – • the carriage and wearing of personal flotation devices on recreational vessels • how to undertake certain activities • the use of restricted areas, access lanes, prohibited and restricted anchorages, reserved areas and special reserved areas • when near large vessels, vessels carrying explosive substances or bulk oil, or Explosive Safety Zones • ensuring vessels are seaworthy, identifiable and having appropriate equipment • the need to register personal water craft • the need to get a licence for and to maintain moorings
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1 hour ago, Steve Pope said:
I think you will find the "brown" stink bug is already established.
aparently not yet,but give it time
The brown marmorated stink bug (BMSB) is an agricultural, horticultural, and social pest. It's native to Asia and has spread throughout North America and Europe. It isn't established in New Zealand, but this sneaky pest hitchhikes on passengers and imported goods.
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Trailer yachts, as we know them today, began in 1958 with the design by Richard Hartley of the "Hartley 16".
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Forgot to mention, did ask where it might of come from .2 theories. Passenger ships as stated in a couple of news reports and possibly with warming oceans travelled via warm currents, no mention of aquariums though. Possibly been here longer than they think.
Asian clams in Waikato river, no idea but deliberately released, they are only fumigating suspected containers where contents are unknown or from countries with known diseases, cannot detect everything.
There biggest concern is the Brown stink bug, not here yet but travels on anything, everything can be a host, unlike say Army worm which is established here, most likely travelled on plant material/soil. Being there host.
Concentration is based on pest etc that can effect our exports.
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8 hours ago, Psyche said:
Broadly I agree with what youre saying. Its the three monkeys in action. Imagine if a coordinated regionwide program was initiated to identify seaweed. It is so easy these days, I mean take a cellphone picture of what you find on your anchor or beach or dive and text it to 0800 seaweed with time and place, in fact the photo usually contains that metadata anyway!
How hard could it be? People do care, people do want to preserve the wilderness, how about let them in on it so they can play an active role and not solely be on the receiving end of bans with no end in sight which appear to be based on science that is incomplete?
Was talking too MPI today today,control not eradicate now. There thinking is treat it like didimo and are looking at getting moorings dropped at a few places where weed is to avoid anchoring.
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1 hour ago, K4309 said:
I think a stop at the Mokes is logical. You can speed up the delivery by slowing the work down. Take a break to re-assess, check over, confirm your plan, etc.
That, and if I was a CG volunteer and was putting in that many hours, I'd want to take the chance to check out the Mokes on the way past. I've never been there.
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11 minutes ago, K4309 said:
That was a very long tow. Wonder what the back story was on the yacht?
wonder the same.Was he making a passage to Mercs or Whitianga? Strange how they stopped at the Mokes
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1 hour ago, K4309 said:
If your alternator is not running (blew up a diode or something) is there any harm in running your engine to get home?
it will be fine if mechanical/engine driven water cooling system,just no charge going out,
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5 hours ago, Guest said:
What gets me also is the “throw it back”
So it can disperse in currents.Now thats a good idea🤣
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Bugger me another species thats unwanted is now in the Waikato river.
Asian clams'
Initial checks have found the freshwater gold clam present over a 45-kilometre stretch of the Waikato River, from 1.5km upstream of Bob’s Landing, just upstream of Lake Karāpiro, and downriver to Hamilton.
Mr Anderson says the plan now is to search further, both within the Waikato River and in other rivers and lakes that are linked through human activity.
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Another MPI fail. Army worm,detected 20222 but did nothing
Pauhia ferry crash
in MarineTalk
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Been watching "channel patrol" on prime tv,talk about congestion but no real danger,why?? because they have proper harbour patrol with real harbour masters doing their job and a coastguard watching radar etc ashore,their lifeboat crews would be equivalent to our coastguard and their coastguard would be what our maritime police should be doing.