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    Another ridiculous lifejacket article

    in MarineTalk

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    For all the back and forth this thread has given me some interesting thoughts on reflection. Not all may agree and that is entirely their prerogative, this is just my experience and point of view. Even though my boat is over the prescribed 6. whatever metres long everyone I invited from work on the crew rum race asked for a lifejacket. They all got one, with crotch straps. But then I got to thinking about the majority of sailing I do, which is racing around the harbour on my 8.5 cat. I have a good quality life jacket on the boat yet rarely wear it. I Wonder if the better analogy is to seatbelts in a car rather than crash helmets as was purported to above. I suppose the question is how much a well fitting good quality life jacket is going to impact my sailing ability vs. not wearing one and watching my boat disappear at 15 kts without a helm.... I think I'll start wearing mine more often to be honest as the benefits trend to outweigh the downsides

    ear a harness as well,what destruction will a helmless vessel do?

    Cruising with kids

    in MarineTalk

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    Any tips for BOI with kids?

    I use to leave AK to kawau,maybe 1 or 2 days at kawau,do the big leg early,get away by 4.00am straight to tutukaka then hop up the coast to whangamumu then around to boi,coming home down to whangaruru,down to whangarei(urquharts) then down to leigh,maybe kawau or straight back to AK. depends on ages?

    Another ridiculous lifejacket article

    in MarineTalk

    Posted

    Facts Kevin.. Where are the facts and data? I know from your previous posts that you have no idea of the stats so you are really just presenting your "feelings" on the matter.. The general "vibe" you get on the issue.

     

    Anyone can have "feelings" on the matter. Why are yours more important than anyone else?

     

    I would genuinely like to see someone spend some time analysing incidents from say the last 3 years case by case and provide some real data.

     

    If an inexperienced boaty who bought his first boat yesterday, comes home in the dark because he didn't allow enough daylight, doing 30knots using his GPS as the sole navigation tool and ploughs into rocks, gets thrown into the water and drowns.. Did he die from not wearing a life jacket or from stupidity? I'm sure the stats at present would blame the lack of lifejacket as the main issue because it suits their agenda.

    http://www.maritimenz.govt.nz/magazines/lookout/issue-36/issue-36.p

     

    go to page 9

     

    Reliance on a chart plotter leads to night crash Spotlights and better local detail on the chart plotter of his new boat may have prevented a recreational boatie from crashing into a cliff face at the edge of a central North Island lake, while returning from night fishing with his girlfriend. The couple were trying to navigate in the dark by chart plotter, which was loaded only with “Base Maps”, when the skipper had some difficulty working out how to operate the unit. He had bought the 6.5m fishing boat a week earlier and had been running it in during day trips on the lake. The chart plotter came with the vessel. When the man, 31, noticed it was taking a long time to get to the bay of the camp site they were staying in, the pair used head lamps to illuminate the shore, and realised they were in the wrong bay. Frustrated by the delay after a long day on the lake, the skipper turned the boat around and noted the map of the lake on screen didn’t turn with the vessel. The chart plotter was in “heads-up display”, but because the base map didn’t turn he thought there was an issue with the unit. The man switched the chart plotter off and on again, and it appeared to work fine. He then decided to line the boat up on a previous plotted track, thinking it would be sensible to follow that back to a fishing spot they had come from near their camp. They headed off at around 35 km/h on a previous track. At this stage the skipper was still trying to show his partner how the plotter worked. His preference was to have the plotter zoomed out, but she said it should be zoomed in. The skipper was concentrating on his chart plotter when he heard his girlfriend suddenly scream a warning. Leaning forward to get a better sight of the danger, his body hit the 
    steering wheel when the vessel smashed into the cliff face just off the starboard bow. The force propelled his partner forward into the forward bulkhead, fracturing her kneecap. Her boyfriend’s head and right side of his face struck the window and pillar on the starboard side of the hard top, causing extensive lacerations and knocking him unconscious. He lost the sight in his right eye as a result of the accident. There was no distress beacon aboard on which to raise the alarm and cell phone coverage is patchy at best on the lake. The couple were eventually able to call for help using the vessel’s VHF radio. Police were alerted, who arranged Coastguard and Ambulance crews to attend the scene. While alcohol was on board, there was no evidence of the skipper being inebriated. The skipper was a relatively experienced boatie who had operated his father’s vessel of a similar size, and had shed that lake many times before. However he had not completed any Coastguard or other formal skipper’s courses.
     
    LOOKOUT!POINTS This skipper needed to have his full attention on the course he was taking and the surroundings. Other people on board should be positioned to keep lookout and raise the alarm earlier if need be. It is important also to have tested and understood the capability and limitations of equipment, such as chart plotters, before using them at night. Reliance on a chart plotter alone when motoring at night is not recommended. The standard, basic level maps on GPS chart plotters may not be sufciently rened to navigate by at night. Boaties need to have accurate, up-to-date charts for the environment they are in. This skipper says he realises now that his chart plotter with the basic navigation package may have been sufciently adequate for coastal/inshore navigation, but it did not hold the same accurate and detailed information for inland lakes – which he didn’t realise at the time. He says the main lesson he learned is to be extremely cautious when boating at night: Do not rely on electronics, slow down, reduce the any cabin lighting to improve night vision, and use spotlights. While spotlights assist with night travel, they are best used when stopping to check location. Spotlights can limit your vision to the width of the beam if relying on them when motoring. A skipper should not travel at speed while relying on spotlights for lookout. Spotlights can also blind other boaties who may be in the area. Boaties are advised to have multiple forms of communication close at hand, to enable emergency services to be alerted as quickly as possible – including a PLB or EPIRB distress beacon, ares, and charged cellphones in waterproof bags – in addition to the maritime radio that was on board this vessel.
     
     

    Another ridiculous lifejacket article

    in MarineTalk

    Posted

    Did I read correctly it is only a 5 day trial and Auckland council is not part of it?How does one find out about local bylaws such as in coro wearing lifejackets while in a tender without going to a main ramp to read such bylaws?         Blanket rules across entire nation then all will know rules.No exceptions   When will the breath testing come in like Aussie???

     

     

    Life jackets may save lives and crossing the road may get it by a bus! common sense applies.

    Another ridiculous lifejacket article

    in MarineTalk

    Posted

    it does not specify charter/commercial fishing/recrecreational

     

     

    http://www.maritimenz.govt.nz/commercial/safety/crossing-the-bar/#national_code

     

     

    Loud and clear to me Skippers responsibility,Had he survived I think he would of been charged as new  as to holding a charter operators ticket.Failed to ensure safety of passengers/vessel etc,

    Did he make communication with harbour master or equivalent about crossing the bar??

    Outboard servicing.

    in TechTalk

    Posted

    A myth that did the rounds from what was actually a totally different reason. Most other Countries don't have a 91Oct Fuel. There's is 96Oct. So many petrol engines actually run better on 98 than 91. Modern Cars get away with 91 because everything is computer controlled. However, these cars do actually improve their performance running on 98 rather than 91. But it takes an experienced driver to notice it. You will however notice a lot further distance from a tank full. Sadly, the per Km Cost works out ruffly the same, so overall, there is no real saving running on 98.

    In any Petrol engine, because 98 is slower burning, you get the power delivered over a longer period in the cylinder, thus producing force on the Piston head for a longer period, which results in more torque and a smoother feel with acceleration. For a 2 stroke, that is a big plus.

    certainly started easier and ran smoother,no oil smell

    Another ridiculous lifejacket article

    in MarineTalk

    Posted

    How many lifejackets does a boat owner or commercial operation need to own??

    current law states lifejackets for all onboard,fair enough,but the range one would need to carry could be ridiculous,10 x jackets to 130kg person  or 10 jackets to fit 80kg and on it goes.

    I have 6 onboard but prefer to crew to bring their own .

     

    a number of yrs ago went on the "soren larsen"great day out.Took at the time 5yr old and took  a jacket and he wore it,Skipper said he did not need it, suppose he was correct but in the unlikely event child went overboard how long would it take to turn her around?paranoid parent or responsible?

     

     

     

    On a side note,do you think those who swim in lakes rivers off wharves etc wearing jeans need education as well?

    Kaikoura Wharf.

    in MarineTalk

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    Well here is a little adventure I had at 18, took a hartley 16ft from Kawau out to Gt Barrier (1981),s.e wind 15+ knts,incoming tide quick trip and hung on like death,following day 36hrs drift back to Kawau. Would I do it again at 53?NO, and yes I may give advice to someone who wanted to do it tomorrow, Do it in company of larger vessel . I got away with it, Lucky springs to mind.

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