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    Neslon has had a hammering today

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    that's quite some damage.  If I've got it right the top photos is the Boatshed Cafe which sits a (usually ) healthy distance above the water, the next two  are "the boathouse" way back was the sea scouts and maybe the rowing club (60ish years now....) and the last photo is Nelson Yacht Club.  The have a lot of boat storage on the same level so hopefully not too many battered boats.

     

    "Haulashore Island" way back in the day when proper ships had sails (and a long way before the cut was put through the boulder bank) it was a nice sheltered spot with 3-4 m tides so most likely a handy post for some bum cleaning.  One or two modern ships have tried to repeat that in more recent times, thankfully unsuccessfully....

    What should I do?

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    I feel that is what I should do but boy does it go against the grain. I've never "stiffed" someone like that in my life.

     

    it looks more like you are the one that has been "stiffed" here

     

    Beccara; has sound advice, be very clear on what was agreed and go from there.  I would have thought their easiest (and cheapest ) way out will still be to get the job done properly, they might just need a little prod to get them to see it that way.

    Speeding fines on the water

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    Picking out only part of the bylaws can be misleading, we have the same rule in Wellington that goes on to say "unless a helmsman  is standing by in the immediate vicinity of the helm or wheel"  

     

    so what does that mean? Don't leave it on autopilot and go below for a sleep; keep a watch and be ready and able to alter course if you need to.  If you are sailing and using the auto-helm to help you out you are obviously on deck, alert and hopefully even keeping a lookout.  So you comply with the bylaw.

     

    also the bylaws are just about you, they cover a whole range of vessels.

     

    Neil, if you are using the auto to drop sails you would have likely already checked the area around, you are still on deck and if things change you are in a position to take over.  That would comply with the bylaw in Wellington, and I suspect Auckland too.  :thumbup:

    Speeding fines on the water

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    I do wonder why I bother replying on here some times, but I guess I'm a sucker for punishment.

     

    NZ extends south of the Bombay hills and we do not copy everything that happens north of there, we live breath make decisions without checking first what is happening in the north.

     

    It is the Greater Wellington Regional Council, regional councils are still a thing in quite of lot of the country....

     

    I would hope when you do your big tour you actually think ahead and do some planning before you show up at another port, (then you don't need to have interwebs on board.) Most of the rules are standard through out the country, despite you highlighting a few of the differences, those difference don't tend to be the biggest issues. 

    With only a little effort you could talk to the locals via radio when you get there (before you ask there is this book called the NZ Nautical Almanac that has stuff like radio stations and channel information in it)

     

    One age old problem is people that know a bit about the rules but like taking things out of context or proportion to try make a point....

     

    Should you wish to visit wellington by sea rather than air or road here is a link to our bylaws http://www.gw.govt.nz/navigation-and-safety/ 

     

    Should there be a standard set of rules? well a lot are already but that is Central governments job and moaning at those trying to work within the existing system wont actually achieve much.

    Speeding fines on the water

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    I liked  :angry:  the Welly H/M comment on the news the other night 'We got a few, all didn't know the Regs but we fined them anyway'.

     

    All I heard 'We have failed in our duty to inform and educate but we don't give a sh*t as we have this new source of income'.

     

    He needs to be taken for a Spin and taught how to say it just right so the punters come way thinking 'Hell Yes he's right, I do want to eat that sloppy dog turd he's offering'. He needs to sprinkle some Star Dust on his weeties.

     

    think you need to get your hearing checked KM, (or maybe ignore those 'other' voices)

     

    we have been educating them for 15 years plus, some have a low interest in learning. I also talked about why speed is an issue, not as interesting unfortunately and didn't get the air time, but possibly what you were hitting at ( i think..got confused somewhere between the dog turds and the wheeties.)

     

    infringements as a source of income... you are a comedian , the time and shagging around involved is not worth the $$ let me assure you of that

     

    and those that got tickets were given the option of enrolling on a Dayskipper course to get educated... I don't think we are heavy handed with the ticket book in Welly, but the odd one or two does (hopefully) create a bit of focus and awareness...

     

    someone got educated on the 5 knot rule tonight by riding a jet ski into the end of petone wharf, maybe if he wasn't going full noise....

     

    Anyway it's a holiday in the fair capital tomorrow so off sailing, enjoy your day at work :-)

    Speeding fines on the water

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    Anyone notice they don't know their own rules?

    5 knots is within 200m of shore and/or a vessel showing the dive flag, 50m is swimmers or another vessel..

    Doh!

    i understand that has been corrected and the revised version sent out.  

    waka wrecking

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    No doubt a bad call, but I'm curious about the details of the legal issue involved. Of course 'details' is not something you could ever accuse the Herald of dabbling in.

    details and facts sometimes seem to be too complicated for the media to cope with....

     

    I suspect that the prosecution would have been under section 65 of the Maritime Transport Act, most cases of this type are. 

    waka wrecking

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    yikes! not a good day to try a bar crossing.

     

    A number of years a go one of the 22m waka houroa (pardon spelling) had an interesting time getting to Wellington, with a southerly swell astern of them they had difficulty keeping their oar in the water.  Skipper made the decision to go across  rather than straight down the seas and got into Island Bay for shelter.  A very nice bit of work considering the entrance and conditions at the time......

    Sounds Sea Bed Survey

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    the charts will be produced by LINZ as usual,

    there was a joint approach by LINZ and Marlborough District Council that meant LINZ surveyed the entire sound and not just bits important to shipping  and MDC get a heap of other data about the sounds at a really good price.  

     

    Most councils tend to make their data available where they can.  It might take a while to chew through the data and make it something more easily digested.

    Who is going to buy our yachts and at what price?

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    I seem to recall this yacht running aground at the entrance to Tory Channel and removing the keel, before sinking? I was living in Wellington at the time at Chaffers Marina and recall it being missing from the berth for a wee while. Anyone else remember or is my memory of target?

     

    cheers

    that was called "Cervantes" was also last yacht seen tied up to Thorndon pile light before the pile fell over. had some major work after ding at Tory.  which would tie in with getting the work done at Franklins, was that late 1990's?

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    Mana to Marlborough - first crossing

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    the Cruising guide is great, either paper copy (if you can find one) or the electronic version in the link above.

     

    Watch the weather, make sure you boat is up to the trip and be prepared.  I did this in a 17ft dinghy, its about getting the weather right.  Mana Island to Cape Komaru is only about 18nm; less than 4 hours at 5 knots.

     

    Don't be tied into a schedule, but have a window of time, that's important

     

    and have fun!

    Welsford Penguin

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    Did you build the Pathfinder yourself grant? Would be interested to know how you found deciphering the plans. I've not seen them yet. I have a pretty good workshop, certainly should be enough tools to get through it, and some knowledge of woodworking but this would be a big challenge if I took it on.

     

    no i bought mine 2nd hand.  Time and ability being a factor, I thought that was a more practical way to get sailing.

     

    the pathfinder is the larger cousin of the navigator, and I would it sails easily as distinct from hot shot performance, i suspect Penguin  would be similar.

     

    in regards costs and resale, I would to agree with Motorbike, when I see boats like that for sale they are, i suspect well below the cost of the materials.  However as a lovely boat to sail and enjoy they are great.

    Out there sailing.

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    do you need to come to wellington?  if you are heading north and get a good southerly forecast might it be better to go straight up the coast? 

    Probably a better option if you have crew and can get decent rest while underway.

    Onboard Plotters / GPS. True or Magnetic?

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    Ok Kevin for you and those more easily offended, although I learned the one above many years ago in my coastal masters course (using true in place of timid), I also learned:

    Variation east, compass least, variation West, compass best.

    Is that more appropriate?

    It still doesn't give TVMDC though.

     

     

    to go the other way

     

    Cadbury Diary Milk Very Tasty

    (compass - deviation- Magnetic - Variation - True)

     

    CAdET  - Compass Add East = True

     

    so if you are moving from Compass (Cadbury) to True (tasty) any deviation or variation that is East is added, if either is west it is subtracted, and its opposite if converting from True to Compass

     

    Clear as mud?

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