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1 hour ago, Black Panther said:
So the radio tells me the guy who died north of Cape Brett could have been ok.
The water came inside and popped the windows out.
Rules have now been changed so windows above a certain size need to be covered.
All this we knew a long time ago.
What are the rule changes? Didn't windows above a certain size need covers since all my life?
Since they popped out due to internal pressure would that have even helped?
Is this typical bureaucratic nonsense that tells us nothing and achieves nothing?
Or is there more to the report that the radio isn't telling me?
Oh yeah, what took so long?
The report tells it how it happened, based on my discussions with Pam Pedersen and the wife of tone of the other crew members.
I had been in regular email contact with Pam and Stu prior to their departure as they had found me a crew member for my passage back from New Cal. I believe their departure date was to some extent set by the arrival of their crew. Riada and several other yachts had left Fiji the previous week and had a fast if bumpy passage with an easterly wind pattern.
When i saw on their tracker they had departed Fiji I had a look at the weather during the period of their passage and it was quite clear just from Windy that there was some ugly weather forecast close to NZ. My opinion is they did not receive good weather advice. When I sailed from New Cal I used Bruce Buckley from Australia and his info was spot on.
Re storm coverings, until the rule change they only had to be carried, not fitted. If they had been fitted to Essence, they probably would not have stopped the windows popping but they would have obviously significantly reduced the open area for water to enter. remember also the forard hatch had come open , that would have been 60 x 60cm so would have let alot of water in.
A tragic loss
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2 hours ago, B00B00 said:
With no covid you would clear out at Bora Bora, stop at maupiti (last atol in FP) then suwarow (northern cook islands), nuie, tonga Minerva and NZ. Or the southern route aitutaki, palmiston, nuie.
But with covid I'm not sure exactly where you will be allowed to stop. As jon said Minerva is a great point to leave to NZ but I think you need 2 weeks at sea before entering NZ and they class that as a port even though its uninhabited.
Going by this https://www.noonsite.com/news/novel-coronavirus-2019-ncov-special-procedures-being-introduced-in-ports-of-entry-worldwide/ apart from Fiji, the Sth Pacific is closed. I see the Tongan link says you are supposed to get prior approval to stop at Minerva
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I need to update my riding gear for sealed road touring (on a sports tourer), and interested to hear feedback on the perennial leather vs textile options.
I am aware textile is not permitted on tracks. Results on this site are interesting reading https://www.motocap.com.au/
I also know asking this question is a bit like asking the best anchor question....🤣
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35 minutes ago, aardvarkash10 said:
Joseph Lucas - Prince of Darkness.
My early career was as an auto-electrician - Bosch over Lucas any day, Denso over either of them year after year...
and if memory serves me well Lucas also concocted other automotive delights such as the diabolical fuel injection system seen on the Triumph 2500PI and TR6's amongst others. Rover at least had the good sense to stick with SU carbies for quite some time longer...
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back on topic, looking back on motoring in the "good old days"
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31 minutes ago, Psyche said:
I've owned something like 30 or more motorbikes, I am not sure what the attraction is but it's not too much of a stretch to imagine that there is something similar in the physical sensations to sailing. Whatever it is, there is some kind of magic that happens on two wheels that's as addictive as sailing.
There is some sort of addiction that goes with it that makes me gear up in the thermals at least a couple of times a week to ride to work in these current low temperatures, even though there is a 4 wheel tin box with a heater sitting right beside the bike in the garage
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5 hours ago, idlerboat said:
Starlink ( Elon Musk) will go mobile at the end of this year , and it promises to be much cheaper and faster per data amount than anything else currently available by satellite. It will need a stabilisation system on a moving yacht..
Starlink looks alot like Global Star, with Low Earth Orbit (LEO) satellites. Needs alot more satellites than Iridium for coverage so it is natural they will be located over high density population areas for best revenue. So I would be doubtful there will be much coverage for the South Pacific for quite some time
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12 hours ago, aardvarkash10 said:
the pawls are the little teeth that stop the drum from spinning backward.
pawls are pesky little spring loaded components that love to make a leap for freedom into the tide when you lift the drum off the shaft🤣
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9 hours ago, Alex-Chch said:
Hi to all
I recently purchased a Young 8.4 and I’m trying to find the specs for the yacht. Found plenty about Y88’s but not Y8.4’s
does anyone know where I may find them, as internet search’s so far have drawn a blank
many thanks
Alex
Try Roger Hill, he has access to all Jim's designs https://www.powercatsnz.com/
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10 minutes ago, waikiore said:
Back when I started all marine companies-be they chandlers sailmakers riggers engineers had a system of putting the newbies under the wing of an experienced hand, a sort of pastoral care if you like, this had two benefits - training on the job and avoiding cock ups for the company.
That was the long proven way of training young people for a profession or trade right back to the time of druids and witch doctors 😁. Remember the old 8,000-9,000hr apprenticeship system where at the end of their time a boatbuilder could build a boat from lofting to final fitout and similarly for a chippy to almost build a complete house (except for brickwork/roofing/electrics and plumbing).
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On 11/07/2021 at 3:40 PM, Deep Purple said:
Was mainsheet trimmer on Mint owned by John Faire in the early 90's. Fun boats. Many an after-race function on the Dave Giddens skippered Jenny G. Namesake owners wife Jenny Gibbs always turned up with massive food platters and rum.
I sailed on Flight Path in the early 80's with 2 owners. Had alot of great racing. We had a few wins, Amnesty would have had the most with Angstrom and White Lightning fighting it out with us. When Bevan Woolley showed up with his (can't remember her name) she was often first across the line
The Akarana winter series were awesome, first season they had downwind starts, everyone running line abreast under spinnaker until we reached Izzy Bay buoy with a mega pileup of about a dozen trying to get around.
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2 hours ago, Fogg said:
Yes. Up to a point. Many of the gripes I’ve had with shabby service would not actually cost anything to fix. These are real examples that would not cost a small business anything extra to improve but make the difference between me being happy or unhappy with the service:
1. Contractors not turning up on time with no courtesy call to explain why they’ve wasted 2hrs of my time to travel to/from my boat. But they have no problem charging me for their travel time FFS.
2. Contractors going to my boat in my absence (usually after they started a job when I was there but have to come back to finish off) and leave debris, dirt or damage eg gouges in my coamings from dragging a dirty metal toolbox onboard lazily or leaving their grubby boots on whilst working onboard or leaving debris from their work lying around (I’ve found nails, screws, wires, crimps even tools left behind).
3. Contractors do poor job. I turn up after they’ve left and see problem. Call them back (or their boss if AWOL) and boss turns up all defensive. Then they see problem, fix it in minutes but with begrudging attitude and with no sign of any service recovery ethic eg. “Sorry yes I agree that wasn’t very good was it - but I hope you’re happy that we’ve fixed it now?”
I could go on. But the point is none of these issues require technical skill or deep pockets to fix.
Yes I’ve had issues with technical incompetence by people who should have known better. But that’s a different complaint. And I’ve never had a problem with anyone who admits “Actually I don’t know the answer to this one but I’ll find out.” I understand that sometimes even experienced and competent professionals learn on the job. In fact that’s a good attitude to have. But I hate it when they pretend they know - screw it up - and then get defensive when you call them out on it.
In summary, the problems seem to be more more about pride and work ethic than technical competence. Why is this is absent in this niche area in NZ (small marine services)?
unfortunately it is not just the little guys nor is it just the marine industry. It is really a case of finding some good guys and sticking with them. That being said one employee from a local boatbuilder is banned from ever setting foot on my boat again, still have the glue stains and other damage he left behind
A mate had a new engine fitted to his launch, brand "C" (so you get 2 guesses), there were some minor problems that required attention, and altho he could have repaired them himself, he insisted the supplier attend to them, the number of visits it took to resolve was ridiculous. Look at the attitude of Yanmar in relation to their sail drive issues, just do not want to know.
Then take your gripes and instead of the word "boat", insert the word "house" and think of all the issues of trades not showing up, bad workmanship, overpriced work.
Then think about cars and the issues people have getting problems addressed - the old "wow, first time we have seen that" when a quick internet search finds it is an endemic problem.
I see the same in the construction industry, crap work and people not wanting to rectify their screwups but still expecting to get paid.
It is much the same in Australia.
Mindset of many seems to me to be one of "entitlement", basically (and of course I generalise) the view is if they show up and do something they have the expectation to get paid whether work done correctly/problem fixed or not.
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17 hours ago, DoT said:
Passing ORAMS on the way - not a single "normal" yacht on the hard, and only 3 "normal" launches. They seem to only be interested in hauling superyachts now they have their 800T travel hoist.
Unfortunately economic reality for them, a lot more money to be made from hauling and working on superyachts than a typical 12m yacht/launch where the owner does most of the work
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some advice I received from Bill "overall man of action" Falconer re these shifts, try and keep them covered when moored and keep the red button from the old unit as a spare (if still in 1 piece), these are a very common failure no doubt due to weathering
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its one of these, been rebadged possibly from Ultraflex, my yacht has the same
https://marinepartssource.com/side-mount-sailboat-control-seastar-solutions-ch2100p
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might have to retract the comment about cruise ships and flags of convenience, interesting reading here
https://www.cruisemapper.com/wiki/758-cruise-ship-registry-flags-of-convenience-flag-state-control
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7 hours ago, DrWatson said:
Just wondering whose safety regs a foreign ship needs to meet/pass inspection for, to embark and disembark paying passengers in NZ? Flag state?
I mean like the cruise ships that pick you up in AKL and drop you off in some other city. They're not NZ ships, so i assume they don't have the whole NZ safe ship management thing going on. What's the deal there? And moreover, do you pay GST on your fare?R
It is no different to a cruising yacht picking up crew in a foreign country
They are bound by the rules set by the IMO and the state whose flag they sail under - yes, I appreciate the latter is potentially open to abuse. However I doubt if many cruise ships sail under flags of convenience.
International maritime law allows a country to prevent a foreign ship sailing if they consider the ship unseaworthy - a few ships have been caught by this provision in Australia and NZ. That being said I have heard a few stories of very dodgy fishing boats being bought in NZ, re registered to one of the islands and sailing off over the horizon, a couple never to be seen again
ps same rules apply to aircraft, with IATA being the governing body. All planes should comply with FAA standards, but...
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On 5/07/2021 at 6:15 PM, Island Time said:
id do it, but I’m currently still stuck in Queensland...
as long as it is in a warm part by a beach not a bad place to be 😄
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11 minutes ago, Keylime said:
Thanks. I got this recommendation on cruisers forum. https://www.velasailingsupply.com/viadana-swivel-base-w-adjustable-ball-bearing/?sku=VIA20.03&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIpKyaip3S8QIVhLaWCh0npQyrEAQYAyABEgJoLPD_BwE
Keen to find something in NZ as shipping atm takes ages.
Good to have a couple of options. Thanks for your post.
interesting, never heard of Viadana before. The SWL is listed as 140kg, I suggest you find an online calculator (see Harken's web site) to check this would be adequate for your sheet loading
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there are not many options, this is the nearest I have found for a new fitting with an adequate SWL
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10 minutes ago, Adrianp said:
Interesting situation. I think Martin Robertson has taken over the Mahurangi Marinas yard by the old Cement works, so he gets a nice payout from the land auction and gets rid of the competition?
I had heard that too, but a search of the companies register shows it is still owned (as of Dec 20) by the Dixons (better known for their stainless steel work)
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28 minutes ago, Keylime said:
Hi, I’m replacing the main sheet on my Tasman 20, and would like to have a floor mounted block and cleat. Does anyone know where I can find one of these?
try these guys https://www.whitestarproducts.co.nz/our-brand/cleveco/
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1 hour ago, Deep Purple said:
It would be a real shame to see Robertson's close. It may accelerate Mick Cookson's boat yard plans on his land a bit further down the river
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7 hours ago, Adrianp said:
not exactly cheap though, I pay somewhat less at Robertsons, Warkworth
$355 Haulout + $40/day hardstand for 14m May this year
Conrad's travel lift can accommodate an 8m beam - just
Fatality - Northland
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per BP request, reposting from my MNZ Report post:
The report tells it how it happened, based on my discussions with Pam Pedersen and the wife of one of the other crew members.
I had been in regular email contact with Pam and Stu prior to their departure as they had found me a crew member for my passage back from New Cal. I believe their departure date was to some extent set by the arrival of their crew. Riada and several other yachts had left Fiji the previous week and had a fast if bumpy passage with an easterly wind pattern.
When i saw on their tracker they had departed Fiji I had a look at the weather during the period of their passage and it was quite clear just from Windy that there was some ugly weather forecast close to NZ. My opinion is they did not receive good weather advice. When I sailed from New Cal I used Bruce Buckley from Australia and his info was spot on.
Re storm coverings, until the rule change they only had to be carried, not fitted. If they had been fitted to Essence, they probably would not have stopped the windows popping but they would have obviously significantly reduced the open area for water to enter. remember also the forard hatch had come open , that would have been 60 x 60cm so would have let alot of water in.
A tragic loss
Crew Bruce Goodwin has written a book of the event
https://www.thebestlittlebookstore.nz/product-info.php?The+Final+Voyage+of+the+Essence-pid420.html