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http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/1038762 ... sail-boats You guys have all made the news. Congratulations.

I found, when I was building my boat, that you can easily get run down - basically you can work all day, all evening 7 days a week and that's not a sustainable thing to do. With the cure cycles of resin there is always the temptation to do the last few jobs in an evening and get it glued/glassed or whatever so you don't loose 24 hours on a particular job. This job will take you quite some time so pacing yourself is important or it will all turn ugly. That being said - if you're racing with Ken against me then I think the best thing would be to put in a full days work on the boat followed

Have to admit Ashley I've been thinking the same thing - it's almost less effort to build new. I'm assuming you are also going to be refurbishing the REALLY important bits - i.e keel, rudder and bits that hold the mast up too? At the end you will have a brand new... early 70's keeler.

A Ha! FINALLY the 8.5 air draft rule can be celebrated and recognized as the best thing since sliced bread! The riverhead pub! Who knew that the visionaries who setup the rule had this in mind from day 1. Also the idea that on nights like tonight with a bit of breeze we'll have a full fleet out there too...

Thanks Tim - much appreciated.

Good to hear no damage to people or boat. Tim, some more details please, this flipping thing may be a whole lot more fun than it looks but I'd like avoid it if I can... for as long as possible. The current technique of not going out in non-glamour weather works well but isn't so satisfying. Point of sail? Forwards or sideways flip? Lessons learnt etc

Hi Rob thanks for the reply. I have spent some time on Kelsall's site and watching infusion videos. Avoiding fairing is an extreme attractive proposition for me right now . Just to get my head around the overall process and relate it to what I already know a bit about: Could the build process be described as kind of like the Tortured ply method except, instead of using ply you are using custom infused foam glass panels. The panels have been laminated, cored, reinforced etc B4 hand to help enable it to take the desired shape and strength characteristics? Is that a valid summary?

Interesting, where is this boat being built? Is the infusion you are using similar to the "kelsal method" I may not have the spelling right - I am just finishing a tri out of foam glass and my end conclusion is there has to be a better way. Is there any site which has how the method/process works in detail and what shape restrictions there are?

Another interesting aspect of the project; I've read on SA a number of people highly recommending wood for the core of these boards - I don't know if they are crazy people or not. There is obviously two schools of thought out there on this subject... If I read Tim C's post correctly, for this centerboard the cedar is just there as a core that will hold the three carbon skins apart? For long grain cedar what would be it's density rating as compared to say 200 kg density foam?

Thanks Tim - yes the middle carbon would be ideal for a fine/strong trailing edge - it's a nice refinement on what I was planning if I go with an "inside out" process. Now I look closer I can see the rebate for the uni's. As I have two to do then I might build a mould but your process looks good also - decisions, decisions...

I have to build a couple of centerboards for my project - I'm kind of putting it off till last job - I don't have much choice on profile as I really just have to follow the shape of the existing case but interested to know how you went about the process for yours. Is the basic process this: 1: Get those foam cedar core halves CNC'd (very nice looking BTW) , 2: glue them together 3: Run crap loads of Carbon Uni down each side 4. wrap crap loads of carbon DB around the outside 5. Bog, fair and paint That is kind of my understanding of how you can do it. Otherwise if you have most

All looks great Tim. I'm struggling with this pic - I'm guessing it's the prod, what's the five way connector at the end for? I'm thinking you have a dolphin striker, a line going to top of mast, one each to left and right floats and then ??? - I can't think what goes on the fifth connection point? It's a worry as I'm working on my prod and you'd think I'd have a handle on this sort of thing by now...

OK I didn't know TVS had the same "tiplet" type arrangement. Bugger about putting them on backwards - I have constant nightmares about that sort of thing when I'm installing bits and pieces on the boat. It will be very interesting to see how it all performs when you get racing again - all eyes will be on the merciless racetrack %ages...

Hi Tim - you have been busy! Interested in those big tips on the board - since they have to be taken out from the underside are the curved boards essentially permanent fixtures - i.e the tips will always be in the water? I would think that could be a major downer in the light. Below is a quote from "Bull" on the use of the banana boards on TVS - they seem to find they are better off without any curved board below 10 knots. What is the plan with those boards in the light conditions? Quote Bull from Why hasn't someone part II thread - "This is an interesting discussion for sure, and w

Regardless of any clubs accepting entries or not, I would hope that, after all the spouting off here, if Rob shows up with his boat and challenges anyone in Auckland to race him on a triangular course at a certain time and date. There would be a few people who would be honor bound to back-up their statements and take him on?? Takers?