AJ Oliver 154 Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 Dear Kiwi Sailors - I thought you might enjoy these pics . . On July 12th a fleet of Tall Ships raced from Cleveland, and we went out on a spectator boat to take some photos. What a sight!! The Age of Sail came alive again right before our eyes. The Pride of Baltimore and the Lynx (pic # 103) are quite similar in terms of design and sail plan (1812 era schooners). They were racing seriously, and it was neat to see them pile on every scrap of canvas they possibly could to get just a little more speed. Wind was perfect for a broad reach, and ideal for those boats - SSE at about ten knots. Unable to match the Pride of Baltimore's speed and sail handling, the Lynx opened up with her deck guns (with powder only, of course) out of what must have been utter frustration. Schooners, the basic design of which was developed in Holland during the 1600's, were the favorites of many Atlantic fishermen, pirates and privateers, because of their speed and ability to sail upwind far better than the square riggers (see pic # 84) - as I'm sure most of you well know. http://intheboatshed.net/2010/07/15/keb ... -schooner/ Fair Winds, Dr. Skip Oliver Sandusky (Ohio) Sailing Club Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted July 15, 2010 Share Posted July 15, 2010 Skip - Many thanks, wish I could have been there. Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJohnB 322 Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 I have a set of plans for the "Pride of Baltimore", its on bucket list to build a 1:24 scale version of her. LOA (spirted) 2159mm LOA (hull) 1372mm Beam 335mm Draft 159mm Air Draft 1448mm SA (total) 1.57m2 SA (working) 1.10 m2 Got the frames cut out and a building board set up for the frames, all I need now is a bit of time. Link to post Share on other sites
AJ Oliver 154 Posted July 16, 2010 Author Share Posted July 16, 2010 Dear Sloop John B - Super idea to build a schooner - other craft to emulate could be Nova Scotia's "Bluenose", or the "Highlander Sea". I'm just a poor but honest retired POL SCI prof, but I'll be glad to make a donation to help get you started. Here is a link to the ongoing restoration project of the Highlander Sea. It has not sailed since 2008, and they are having major problems coming up with funding and a workable business model. As I am sure you realize, your task is daunting - but so are all tasks worth doing. Otherwise, we would not call them tasks . . . http://www.achesonventures.com/Highland ... ation.aspx I would be curious to know about the history of schooners in New Zealand, if anyone has information on that. Before we had decent road or rail systems around the US Great Lakes, or many steam powered ships (roughly 1830 to 1870); there were as many as 2,000 sailing craft operating in this region at any one time - many of which were schooners. They were the engine of our economic development. Link to post Share on other sites
rigger 47 Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 for alot of the coastal work the deck scow was used (there were some hold scows as well) here in NZ Jane Gifford has recently completed a full rebuild / restoration http://www.janegifford.org.nz/history.htm http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~tonyf/scows/index.html http://www.maritimemuseum.co.nz/wawcs01 ... -Live.html http://maanz.wellington.net.nz/nzhistor ... /Alma.html the second photo shows the gates of the drydock that was being built at the time to assist in restoration of Alma Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJohnB 322 Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 Hello AJO I have seen photos of a 1:24 scale "Bluenose" sailing http://www.john-dowd.co.uk/index.php?op ... &Itemid=59 What a coincided about Highlander Sea, I was reading about it yesterday as it is on the front page of the Sailing Anarchy http://www.sailinganarchy.com/index_page1.php Thanks rigger for the links about the scows but have you seen the discussion on boatdesign.net about them? http://www.boatdesign.net/forums/sailbo ... 28735.html I am not sure about the early working boatbuilding industry in NZ but it looks like it was mainly scows. but there was a big industry building racing keelers about late 1800's and early 1900's, with the tradition of keeler building is still strong in NZ. NZ has a high tide lift of about 2.5 to 3 meters and a lot of tidal inlets so the scows where sailed on to the beaches for loading and unloading of cargo to the various settlements around the coast of the northern part of the North Island. Another popular type of working boat was the mullet fishing sailing boat commonly know as the "Mulleties" Here's a refer to the Ponsoby Sailing Club who still the mulleties. http://www.pcc.org.nz/club-history.html There should be some more comments and discussions form other crew members adding more information about the scows and mulleties. Link to post Share on other sites
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