benny14 6 Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 The Oyang 70, a NZ trawler chartered by foreign fishermen has sunk in the southern ocean 400km south of Dunedin. 45 of the 51 aboard have been rescued so far with 7 local vessels at the scene. The alarm was raised about 5am this morning, it is not known what caused the trawler to sink. Link to post Share on other sites
benny14 6 Posted August 17, 2010 Author Share Posted August 17, 2010 More here... http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/4035006/Seven-missing-as-fishing-boat-sinks-in-Southern-Ocean Seems odd, no one knows why it sunk, weather conditions are calm but foggy... Guess we will find out more as the day goes on... Link to post Share on other sites
wheels 543 Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 Yeah 81m is something that doesn't just go straight down without something catastrophic. Very strange. This boat was also in trouble for dumping Oil in Nelson Harbour. So maybe they have an engineer on board that can't read the names on the Seacocks. Link to post Share on other sites
smithy09 50 Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 Stranger things have happened Wheels! Link to post Share on other sites
benny14 6 Posted August 18, 2010 Author Share Posted August 18, 2010 More info here... So it's capsized while pulling in fishing gear... Seems rather odd... http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/4038411/Fatal-ship-sinking-baffles-industry Link to post Share on other sites
wheels 543 Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 No that is quite possible. Something very wrong if that is the case. Winch failure, net caught something on the sea floor are two possibles while maybe ship was in a circle around and she got pulled over sideways to where the point of machinery and cargo let go and over she went. Understanding some of it's History, Crew and ships condition, it is quite believable. It has long become a sad fact that Fishing from these big vessels is becoming quite dangerous. The crews are poorly skilled, poorly paid, struggle to comunicate, the maintenance is bare minimum, operating budgets are bare minimum and although stretching it a little, it almost seems Ship and Crew are almost expendable these days, when you align operating expenditure and profit making side by side. Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJohnB 322 Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 More info here... So it's capsized while pulling in fishing gear... Seems rather odd... http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/4038411/Fatal-ship-sinking-baffles-industry Especially when its a stern haul. Link to post Share on other sites
benny14 6 Posted August 18, 2010 Author Share Posted August 18, 2010 More info here... So it's capsized while pulling in fishing gear... Seems rather odd... http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/4038411/Fatal-ship-sinking-baffles-industry Especially when its a stern haul. Yep my thoughts exactly SJB... Can you pitch pole a trawler Link to post Share on other sites
wheels 543 Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 Maybe they caught a Submarine up in the net. Or a Gigantic Squid pulled it down. Or are we about to see sequal No 17 of Jaw's?? Link to post Share on other sites
smithy09 50 Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 That's a big ship to go down in what appear to be calm conditions. The one I am on is only 10 metres longer. Something went very, very wrong. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 So maybe they have an engineer on board that can't read the names on the Seacocks. Even trawlers prepared for scuttling (big openings cut in bulkheads etc) take half an hour or more to go down when the seacocks are opened. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 More info here... So it's capsized while pulling in fishing gear... Seems rather odd... http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/4038411/Fatal-ship-sinking-baffles-industry Knot really. A 60fter odd capsized up north a few years back while fishing for Pilchards I think it was. They got a monster haul in the net and when about to get them aboard the fish sounded (thought bugger this and all started swimming downwards at once) and just pulled the boat over. Hate to see what size net a 80mt boat would have and the amount of fish in it, if it happened like that though. And I doubt that could happen with a stern haul but weirder things have happened I suppose. Link to post Share on other sites
benny14 6 Posted August 18, 2010 Author Share Posted August 18, 2010 More info here... So it's capsized while pulling in fishing gear... Seems rather odd... http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/4038411/Fatal-ship-sinking-baffles-industry Knot really. A 60fter odd capsized up north a few years back while fishing for Pilchards I think it was. They got a monster haul in the net and when about to get them aboard the fish sounded (thought bugger this and all started swimming downwards at once) and just pulled the boat over. Hate to see what size net a 80mt boat would have and the amount of fish in it, if it happened like that though. And I doubt that could happen with a stern haul but weirder things have happened I suppose. Seen "Finding Nemo" KM? "Swim down everyone, swim down!" "Just keep swimming, just keep swimming" Didn't realise fish were really that organised in real life! Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJohnB 322 Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 KM just thing if they where using that cheap chain from China they would be alright. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dry Reach Posted August 18, 2010 Share Posted August 18, 2010 Maybe a mystery ketch rammed ot of got caught in its nets? To sink so fast it would have to take a lot of water in thru the fish deck / access hatch to the fish hold. This is the bigeest "hole" in the boat. A fish access hatch is the only way to get bulk water down below! but this would only fill the tank to the level and weight of fish (roughly) . Even if this half filled and all the waqter went to on side it shouldnet take a boat under. ... unles the hold is more than 40% of the ships total internal volume? very strange. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 Seen "Finding Nemo" KM? "Swim down everyone, swim down!" "Just keep swimming, just keep swimming" Didn't realise fish were really that organised in real life! Oh yeah, they aren't always silly. They do actually do that and it is something the dudes watch out for with full nets. Often they can have a net full and a shark or something big will pop up to see what the excitement is about then the little fellas go Opps, outta here, and the boat suddenly has issues. 10-15 tonnes of even Pilchards when upset can take a lot of stopping. Gonna have to watch Nemo now DR has a good point. To go down that fast probably means she fell over and the Pacific just rushed in the often bloody big hole. Or maybe some tank collapsed and the free water effect nailed them, maybe a combo of both. But whatever happened to go down that fast was catastrophic and knot seen coming. Link to post Share on other sites
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