banaari 27 Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 http://www.avaaz.org/en/72_hours_to_save_our_oceans/?vl Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 Did anyone else get an annoying email from these guys saying that they were under attack and they they are one of the largest threats to governments? I thought that was bordering a little bit of a scam.... Link to post Share on other sites
banaari 27 Posted May 3, 2012 Author Share Posted May 3, 2012 Did anyone else get an annoying email from these guys saying that they were under attack and they they are one of the largest threats to governments? I thought that was bordering a little bit of a scam.... No. When? Link to post Share on other sites
wheels 543 Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 No email, but I have not subscribed. I suggest that this will most likely be a scam, so be very careful. Especially in what info you give. My first clue is about the worlds Gvts coming together. That does not happen, apart from at the United Nations. Secondly, a Partition would have exactly the sum total of Zilch influence on such a meeting. These meetings don't work that way. You have an agenda and that is rigidly kept to. And besides, this argument has beendebated till the cows come home at such talks. Link to post Share on other sites
banaari 27 Posted May 3, 2012 Author Share Posted May 3, 2012 No email, but I have not subscribed. I suggest that this will most likely be a scam, so be very careful. Especially in what info you give. My first clue is about the worlds Gvts coming together. That does not happen, apart from at the United Nations. Secondly, a Partition would have exactly the sum total of Zilch influence on such a meeting. These meetings don't work that way. You have an agenda and that is rigidly kept to. And besides, this argument has beendebated till the cows come home at such talks. No, it's not a scam; Avaaz is a legitimate grass-roots pressure group. The meeting in question IS at the UN; and the pressure is being applied to a specific set of voting participants. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 No email, but I have not subscribed. I suggest that this will most likely be a scam, so be very careful. Especially in what info you give. My first clue is about the worlds Gvts coming together. That does not happen, apart from at the United Nations. Secondly, a Partition would have exactly the sum total of Zilch influence on such a meeting. These meetings don't work that way. You have an agenda and that is rigidly kept to. And besides, this argument has beendebated till the cows come home at such talks. No, it's not a scam; Avaaz is a legitimate grass-roots pressure group. The meeting in question IS at the UN; and the pressure is being applied to a specific set of voting participants. The site is not a scam but like anything you need to sift through what is written to find the truth. I find it very hard to believe some of their claims surrounding them being a major international threat to country's like china. Here is the email Dear friend, Right now, the Avaaz website is under massive attack. An expert is telling us that an attack this large is likely coming from a government or large corporation, with massive, simultaneous and sophisticated assaults from across the world to take down our site. We were expecting this. Our people-powered campaigning has been fearless, and we've taken on the world's worst actors head-on, in ways that genuinely hurt them - from the Syrian and Chinese regimes to Rupert Murdoch, Big Oil and organized crime. The Syrian dictatorship called our campaigner 'the most dangerous man in the world', and a UK inquiry recently revealed emails between Murdoch's news corporation and top levels of government saying the Avaaz campaign against Murdoch was their biggest concern. Sometimes I lie awake at night wondering when these people are going to come after us. And it's begun. We have urgent campaigns on oceans, forests and Syria we need to run, but the attack has been going on for 36 hours straight, threatening our ability to keep campaigning. Because of top-notch security, our site is still up, but it's not enough. We need to show these actors that when they attack Avaaz, they're messing with people. And people-power can't be intimidated or silenced, it only grows stronger. Click below to donate to an Avaaz defence fund to take our security to the next level, and show our attackers that whatever they throw at us only makes us stronger: https://secure.avaaz.org/en/massive_att ... vaaz_a/?vl National authorities have been alerted to the attack. But we urgently need the defence fund to help us: rapidly build industrial-scale security so that no attack can stop us campaigning hire top hackers and technologists to manage our systems, defend us and test our defences increase the physical security of our most vulnerable staff in places like Lebanon and Russia take a range of other actions to improve our technology and security Avaaz is a lightning rod that channels voices from across the world, from incredibly brave Tibetan, Russian and Syrian demonstrators risking everything for their freedom, to Bolivian indigenous communities saving their forest from being chopped in half. These people face intense danger, and repelling this attack is just another front in their and our struggle for democracy. Millions of us have campaigned to keep corporations and governments from censoring and controlling the web. Now one of them is trying to censor us. So far, we're still standing, and our amazing member-funded systems mean that we can run this appeal for support safely and securely. But our campaigning is under real threat. We need to act, and show that these tactics only make us stronger: https://secure.avaaz.org/en/massive_att ... vaaz_a/?vl Avaaz can stand up to governments and corporations only because all of our strength, legitimacy, and funding comes from people, and people alone. We don't accept money - any money - from governments, corporations, foundations, or even large individual donors. It's extremely rare among large civil society organizations today, but 100% of our money comes from small online donations, and we don't accept gifts over 5000 Euros from anyone. That's why we're independent, and that's why we're a threat to those who put power before people. Let's keep being a threat. With hope and determination, Ricken and the whole Avaaz team. Link to post Share on other sites
banaari 27 Posted May 3, 2012 Author Share Posted May 3, 2012 If they say they're under cyber attack, they're under attack. And there's one hell of precedent for that kind of thing right in one of our own harbours. And many governments and organisations *hate* adverse publicity. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted May 3, 2012 Share Posted May 3, 2012 If they say they're under cyber attack, they're under attack. And there's one hell of precedent for that kind of thing right in one of our own harbours. And many governments and organisations *hate* adverse publicity. I do believe that their under attack and that they do pose a threat to some companys and governments, but not to the extent that they claim. If people wanted to hack into their site and take it out then they could....easily (numerous kiwis could as you say) just as people get into the fbi and Americas defence servers.. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 I think the syrian government has a few bigger worries than an activist website on the oceans. As for the others, well, they probably will not even notice the activists. The chances of their site being attacked (presumably unsuccessfully) isn't credible. Sounds too much like a scam to me. Link to post Share on other sites
banaari 27 Posted May 4, 2012 Author Share Posted May 4, 2012 The chances of their site being attacked (presumably unsuccessfully) isn't credible. Perfectly credible. Bot-driven DDOS (distributed denial of service) is pretty much routine these days. 16-yo "script kiddies" do it for fun; there are sites where you can download the necessary code and roll your own if you're that way inclined. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted May 4, 2012 Share Posted May 4, 2012 Click below to donate to an Avaaz defence fund to take our security to the next level, and show our attackers that whatever they throw at us only makes us stronger: Scam?? Never....... Link to post Share on other sites
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