Making new s.s 3mm shroud on beach Cat.

[omamari 0]

Gidday,

 

I had a shroud bust on my Hyrda 16ft beach Cat. I want to make a new one, as quotes I have received I feel are too costly. Shroud is 6m long.

 

I have stainless steel wire (3mm) on hand. I will likely be using copper ferrules and stainless thimbles from bunnings:

 

http://www.bunnings.co.nz/hindley-wire-rope-swage-3mm-2pc-bunswage3-_p00152901

http://www.bunnings.co.nz/zenith-thimble-3mm-316ss-hss2103_p00306488

With this crimper:

http://www.bunnings.co.nz/kincrome-swagging-tool-with-wire-cutter-350mm-_p00234857

 

a) Is this a good method?

Alternatively, does someone have a crimper I can borrow for 5 minutes? I live in Auckland, Eastern Bays, Kohimarama

c) Is it recommended to sheath the wire in plastic for longevity, comfort and sail protection? If so, is the wire pushed into the sheath or does wire need to be bought pre-sheaved.

 

As you may tell, new to sailing.

 

Thanks for any advice,

 

Daniel

[Island Time 1,246]

Hello omamari,

There is more to rigging than meets the eye. Failure of a shroud can lead to a dismasting, which, in turn, can be very dangerous.

The gear you have listed there is very "entry level" - there is a reason that it says the crimper is for balustrade wires. Quality crimpers have precision made jaws that will do repeatable quality crimps every time. This one does not - the jaws don't even meet properly.

Wire. Here, I must admit I'm used to larger vessels now, that use 1x19 316 stainless wire. What wire do you have, and do you know what quality (or even type of stainless it is)?

 

I do remember my old dingies using copper ferrules and I think it's still common.Larger vessels use swages. The ferrule quality is just as important as the swaging tool.

Low quality stuff and you can loose the rig again!

These guys have some good stuff http://www.clamp-products.co.nz/

but buy the time you have bought the gear, taking the one shroud to a rigger should be cheaper and quicker??

Matt

[Guest]

Holy Cha Ching, those Bunnings prices are ridiculous and for what will be low grade gear. Places like that are shockers with gear like that, massively large prices often rubbish quality.

[wheels 543]

If it's only 3mm, take it to KM for goodness sake. It would cost peanuts compared to buying stuff from Bunnings. Plus that stuff from Bunnings, M10 and the shady fella on the Street Corner at 2AM is absolute crap. Designed for Home Handyman use for "rigging" around the home like Shade sails and so on. Certainly not Marine quality.

[Marshy 30]

Take it to Burnsco if need be, they have the crimpers in store, and they sell proper wire and talurits and thimbles from Clamp Products.

Cheap and easy.

 

But i would have said making a 3mm dinghy stay like that would have cost a box of beers when we were rigging a few years ago, Maybe $30 if your lucky...

[SloopJohnB 322]

There's a company in Elizabeth Knox Pl Rd Mt Wellington it can supply and make what you want.

[Marshy 30]

Clamp Products? Sadly they have moved... to Tawa Drive Albany

http://www.clamp-products.co.nz/

[omamari 0]

Failure of a shroud can lead to a dismasting

Check and done.

 

All great tips, thanks guys. You've lead me to some good options and let me know what price I should be paying.

 

I've found a local rigging place who will let me take in my own wire (which is 316 stainless), and let me have a play with their tools. Or if I don't have time to do it myself, they have given me a competitive quote.

 

Bloody good to know i've finally found a good place for sailing chat and info here at Crew

 

Dan

[Guest]

Thats great, who was the rigging shop?

[omamari 0]

Thats great, who was the rigging shop?

Chains, Ropes and Anchors on the shore.

[smithy09 50]

Thats great, who was the rigging shop?

Chains, Ropes and Anchors on the shore.

No surprises there!!