harrytom 671 Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 https://www.gulfusers.org.nz/petition Have had a read through it,and this is nothing new,IWI at Pakiri have been wanting a total ban on fishing/gulf use for yrs. May not agree with the proposals but we have been going around in circles for yrs and no agreement by advocacy groups/enviromental/mpi/greenpeace etc Sure it will or may impact my activities but do we want to leave a legacy for the next generation or 3?? Does not have to be total closure but limit fish /shellfish take and activities as to pumping vessel waste in to the sea,but need to install waste infrastructure at marinas/ramps first. Once again we all want the same thing but canot agree on how we achieve it,NO I will not be signing as there is formal proposal on how to solve the issues,rather NAH we dont want one group stepping up with their plans and offering no alternative. LETTER FROM ANOTHER SITE> Got sent to me by a mate. Alan I am emailing to give you a heads up that Aucklanders' ability to freely use and enjoy the Hauraki Gulf is at risk. This is because the Hauraki Gulf Forum, a consultative and advocacy body established under the Hauraki Gulf Marine Park Act, is about to vote to remove elected councillors and in their place establish an iwi controlled model. If this goes ahead 2.2 million residents in and around the Hauraki Gulf will lose their ability for democratic accountability. Councils and elected officials won't even be able to ensure your ongoing access to these waterways and boatramps. This proposal will impact recreational fishing, boating, and swimming in some beaches and could be a barrier to businesses who make their livelihood on the Gulf. Right now a majority of the Hauraki Gulf Forum’s members, which also includes Ministerial representatives, as well as iwi representatives, are elected Councillors. This is about to change. The newly formed “Gulf Users Group” has launched a campaign to protect democratic accountability in the Gulf. We are emailing to ask you to consider signing their petition and back the cause via www.GulfUsers.org.nz The Forum is proposing to ask Government to change its composition to that of 50-50 co-governance authority with mana whenua, and for elected Councillors to be removed. It is proposed that this new Authority develop its own statutory plans that will overrule council policies and even central government rule for all matters in respect of the Gulf. Regional Parks also at risk This will mean that like Lake Waikaremoana, the Auckland volcanic cones and the gems accessible to the public could be cut off at a whim. Auckland Council is also consulting on a Regional Park Draft Management Plan that proposes shifting authority for Regional Parks that border the Gulf to the Forum. It would mean decisions on access to up to 21 of the 28 Regional Parks currently owned by Auckland ratepayers would be controlled by the co-governed Forum. Some say a co-governance model is in the best interest of the Gulf. Today, Te Urewera, Lake Waikaremoana, and its Great Walk are under a co-governance model. This was established with the best intentions and assurances from Government that access would remain the same. In practice, access to the park, walk and lake has been severely restricted. We can't give up democratic control of ratepayer assets dave, take a minute to sign the petition to stop changes to the way the Hauraki Gulf is controlled. >> Click here to sign << Thank you for your support. Jo Holmes Auckland Ratepayers' Alliance www.ratepayers.nz P.S We're backing this campaign because fundamentally here at the Ratepayers' Alliance we are democrats. The gulf proposal is totally inconsistent with democracy and accountability. Click here to support the cause. Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin McCready 83 Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 Sigh gulfusers.org.nz Registrant Name Franks Ogilvie Registrant Contact Address Po Box 10388, The Terrace Registrant Contact City Wellington Registrant Contact Province NZ Registrant Contact Postal Code 6043 Registrant Contact Country NZ (NEW ZEALAND) Registrant Contact Phone +64 221930225 Registrant Contact Email brigitte.morten@franksogilvie.co.nz What you need to know about Franks Ogilvie. The Wellington legal firm that employs that very nice man Jordan Williams <heavy sarcasm> of Dirty Politics fame is none other than Franks and Ogilvie, which has ex Act MP Stephen Franks as one of two partners. Franks Ogilvie jordan.williams@franksogilvie.co.nz 04 815 8036 021762542 021 762 542 Executive Director of @TaxpayersUnion The Taxpayers Union belongs to the Atlas Network, a global group of right wing think tanks funded by the Koch brothers et al. Atlas trains the likes of Williams: he's been to the US on their dime on several occasions, winning "fellowships" tpu discovered to have been using false identities to make OIA requests including the name 'Raquel Ray.' Here are just two of the Taxpayers' Unions' social media posts that have made the news for being insensitive. The first for appearing to compare the trauma of the Christchurch terror attack with the Ute tax, the second for allegedly making fun of stroke victims. And of course we have charming people like Vern Ballance from AKL Ratepayers’ Alliance intimately connected with this bunch of racists. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
harrytom 671 Posted February 12, 2022 Author Share Posted February 12, 2022 Glad you went down that road Kevin and not me,but we need to keep the racial things out as Thread will get locked/closed.😀 Link to post Share on other sites
Lindsay 33 Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 These people (Jo Holmes, Jordan Williams et al) are toxic and best avoided. Massive misinformation being spread by this crowd. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Black Panther 1,672 Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 Absolutely correct. The topic is valid but very close to the line. Please try to remain respectful while we discuss what to do with this one. I'm going to lock it for now , way reopen shortly. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Psyche 709 Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 27 minutes ago, Kevin McCready said: Sigh gulfusers.org.nz Registrant Name Franks Ogilvie Registrant Contact Address Po Box 10388, The Terrace Registrant Contact City Wellington Registrant Contact Province NZ Registrant Contact Postal Code 6043 Registrant Contact Country NZ (NEW ZEALAND) Registrant Contact Phone +64 221930225 Registrant Contact Email brigitte.morten@franksogilvie.co.nz What you need to know about Franks Ogilvie. The Wellington legal firm that employs that very nice man Jordan Williams <heavy sarcasm> of Dirty Politics fame is none other than Franks and Ogilvie, which has ex Act MP Stephen Franks as one of two partners. Franks Ogilvie jordan.williams@franksogilvie.co.nz 04 815 8036 021762542 021 762 542 Executive Director of @TaxpayersUnion The Taxpayers Union belongs to the Atlas Network, a global group of right wing think tanks funded by the Koch brothers et al. Atlas trains the likes of Williams: he's been to the US on their dime on several occasions, winning "fellowships" tpu discovered to have been using false identities to make OIA requests including the name 'Raquel Ray.' Here are just two of the Taxpayers' Unions' social media posts that have made the news for being insensitive. The first for appearing to compare the trauma of the Christchurch terror attack with the Ute tax, the second for allegedly making fun of stroke victims. And of course we have charming people like Vern Ballance from AKL Ratepayers’ Alliance intimately connected with this bunch of racists. Thanks Kevin, clearly they have another agenda. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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