Bad Kitty 329 Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 So we've got front runner in two cabins, which I've grown to hate, who's got any goods ideas on a replacement? It's not faired that well under the frontrunner, but I guess we could revisit that. Or ? Thanks, and remember, we're nearly there now, only 7 weeks 6 days to go! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vorpal Blade 89 Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 I hate the stuff but I recommend tear off and replace at about 5 years before any mould etc can start to colonise. The old glue on the boat is the issue. Easiest is tear it down and just put up more of the same.The 5kg canister spray glues I use are not that horrible inside a boat. You saw what i went thru got get the VB interior fur-free and glossy painted inside, major improvement but hours, and hours, and hours. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bad Kitty 329 Posted March 26, 2020 Author Share Posted March 26, 2020 Those 5kg glue's won't be horrible for me VB, might be a bit crappy for you though! OK so that's one option, replace. Anyone else? Come on, only 7 weeks 6 days to think it thru! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ex Machina 390 Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 There’s one man out there that caused so much pain for so many with his bloody glue and front runner 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vorpal Blade 89 Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 The new stuff is water based, low pressure, no odour, and probably both vegan and gluten free but not cheap . Smelliest thing about interior linings is the person that is next to you helping get it all stuck to the surfaces before the glue tacks off. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bad Kitty 329 Posted March 27, 2020 Author Share Posted March 27, 2020 4 hours ago, Knot Me... maybe said: Stainless chain? Or couldn't that happen without added fur lined handcuffs and leather ware By the time we get parole, assuming we do, your bling will be sailing down the northland coast. We did manage to get it out of Italy with 8hrs to spare before they went into full lockdown. Have you sussed some of the new vinyl, for lack of knowing it's proper name, like coverings? I saw some not long ago that were sort of like suede finish but you could wash it with a hose. That could come up well done nicely. Yeah was thinking of a vinyl sort of thing maybe, a bit thicker or on a thin backing maybe to help cover the lack of fairing? Still waiting for a clever boat interior finisher to pop up & solve me dilemma for me! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bad Kitty 329 Posted March 27, 2020 Author Share Posted March 27, 2020 4 hours ago, Knot Me... maybe said: Stainless chain? Or couldn't that happen without added fur lined handcuffs and leather ware By the time we get parole, assuming we do, your bling will be sailing down the northland coast. We did manage to get it out of Italy with 8hrs to spare before they went into full lockdown. Have you sussed some of the new vinyl, for lack of knowing it's proper name, like coverings? I saw some not long ago that were sort of like suede finish but you could wash it with a hose. That could come up well done nicely. And yes, stainless chain please! Look forward to catching up, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vorpal Blade 89 Posted March 27, 2020 Share Posted March 27, 2020 17 hours ago, Bad Kitty said: Yeah was thinking of a vinyl sort of thing maybe, a bit thicker or on a thin backing maybe to help cover the lack of fairing? Still waiting for a clever boat interior finisher to pop up & solve me dilemma for me! What you are describing is more or less an automotive headlining material. Typically a textured vinyl fabric bonded to a layer of foam 2-3mm thick. I have a bloody big carton of swatches in the workshop, if I find some spare time I will have a dig through and see what I can find. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Battgirl 23 Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 Pardon my poor education but what on earth is front runner? Any relation to road runner? Ducking for cover now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bad Kitty 329 Posted March 28, 2020 Author Share Posted March 28, 2020 Its' some sort of synthetic cabin liner, think it's made for marine use, furry soft stuff which starts off great but doesn't age that well. Like a lot of us I guess? Goes a bit mangy after time, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Pope 255 Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 I've got some 40 year old FR, definitely mangy, still in the 2 hard basket. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
strath 4 Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 I have Farr 1020 A couple of years ago I to remove the front runner from the boat, finished up with plywood liner and a glue mess,. I then preceded to make panels that spanned across the full cabin ceiling and have them covered in vynal. This finished up a really nice job. The process 1/ I set out the panels to suit the width of the vynal and the position of any posts, or hatches, I started from the galley posts working forward, also to suit sheet of plywood, in this case they finish up approximately 550mm wide, 2/ Having clean up the ceiling as best I could, 3/ Using heavy brown paper, the type floor layer use, I made 550mm wide patterns, taping it to the ceiling making sure you start parallel to the bulkheads and scribing the ends, 4/ I purchased 6mm plywood, which has a thick core that runs across the sheet, this makes it easier to bend to the curve of the cabin top. 5/ I then laid the pattern on the paper and cut the first sheet. 6/ I then fitted the panel into the boat holding them up by propping it up off the floor, you need a few props, as you must push the sheets up all the way across 7/ Then progressively making a pattern cutting the plywood and fitting each panel inside the boat, scribing the ends and side to match the previous sheet, the cabin top the curve changes and getting tighter as you go forward. 8/ You need to allow 4-5mm clearance on the sheets ends and a 3mm space between sheets. 9/ Once you have fitted all the sheets, sanded the edges and give them and small round. 10/ This is where I cheated as I took the panels to the local upholsterer in Gulf Harbour where he covered the panels with 3mm foam sheets and then rapped them in vynal The finished lookes great a slightly padded vynal panel. It was at the upholsterer recommendation I used 6mm plywood as he wanted wrapped the vynal around the edges to and use 100s of staples to fix on the back. Apparently you can not get shorter staples the 6mm. The sheets are secured in place using industrial valcro stapled along all the edges of the panels and to the underside of the old plywood ceiling to match. It is a fiddly job but well worth the effort, having been a carpentry joiner a past lifeCeiling panels.msg helped. One of the benefits with the above system is that your can remove the panels to get to any bolts fixing turning blocks and deck gear. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
strath 4 Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 Photos of panels Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bad Kitty 329 Posted March 29, 2020 Author Share Posted March 29, 2020 Nice, thanks Strath. You watching Richard Edlin? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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