RushMan 31 Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 Is it possible to handicap mixed fleets? Regatta over the weekend had one Corsair Sprint 750 sailing within a fleet of various trailer sailers. The trimaran was given a handicap lower than the Magic 25! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fish 0 Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 I don't think so, not fairly. Definitely not if you take your racing seriously. For club level racing, it may be possible to get reasonable alignment on handicaps based solely on performance, but any minor changes in either conditions or skill of the multihull and their speed can increase in far greater proportion to the corresponding increase in skill from a mono hull. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tim C 23 Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 We do it at Sandspit with adequate results, over both windward leewards and longer, around the island racing. I can't give the task away! A good system simply rewards the most improved boat in a season or series. If you are consistent, relative to the fleet average, you come mid fleet. No point in taking club mixed racing too seriously. I use a system which increases the winners handicap, and reduces the last boat, and proportionally changes the boats in between. Tim B developed it for the Multihull Yacht club years ago. Like for any handicap system a windy, fast race favours the fast boats, and a drifter favours the slow boats. But it takes years to let the system average out performance handicaps... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RushMan 31 Posted February 15, 2016 Author Share Posted February 15, 2016 Final wash up was the trimaran was placed in a division of one boat, which kept everyone else happy Hopefully the multihull sailors will be able to convince other multis to attend next year Quote Link to post Share on other sites
erice 732 Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 handicap sailing 14' dinghy vs 17' 2-person cat sailed solo mark foy start so as per the handicap ratings the cat starts 10 min late on a 30? min course if the wind is above average, and the cat stay flat can catch dinghy in the run to the line Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GregW 28 Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Is it possible to handicap mixed fleets? Regatta over the weekend had one Corsair Sprint 750 sailing within a fleet of various trailer sailers. The trimaran was given a handicap lower than the Magic 25! Where was this? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RushMan 31 Posted February 20, 2016 Author Share Posted February 20, 2016 Across the ditch in the West Island... Sussex Inlet, NSW We were told 15-20knts, screaming reaches, three on the wire all weekend The brochure lied! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GregW 28 Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Across the ditch in the West Island... Sussex Inlet, NSW We were told 15-20knts, screaming reaches, three on the wire all weekend The brochure lied! LOL. Thanks. I Couldn't think of any Sprints in NZ......... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RushMan 31 Posted February 22, 2016 Author Share Posted February 22, 2016 LOL. Thanks. I Couldn't think of any Sprints in NZ......... I couldn't find any on racetrack Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ed 143 Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Putiki Express is probably the closest, being a modified F24mkII at 0.89. The quicker magic's are sitting around 0.84 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RushMan 31 Posted February 22, 2016 Author Share Posted February 22, 2016 The Magic's were 0.925 under CBH (whatever that is), the Sprint was about 0.875 Hopefully the multis will have more numbers next year and their own division to play in Quote Link to post Share on other sites
markm 30 Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 if you were mixing monos and multis, then sports boats are probably the best to do it with but the performance variation based on weather will be much more with most multi designs than with monos. Multi, handicapped to an average, would still end up either first or last depending on weather and wind angle. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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