Jellyfish stings and other nasties

[wheels 543]

The University of Hawaii has studied what is best to fix a Jellyfish Sting.
Heat!
They say that all Marine Venoms are very sensitive to heat and by applying a Hot pack or running the affected area under Hot Water will destroy the Venom.

[Island Time 1,246]

Works for stingray wounds too...

[erice 732]

heard once from west australian fishermen

 

that playing a lighter flame over a stone-fish wounds works

[wheels 543]

Are Stingray Barbs Venomous??

[Island Time 1,246]

Yes, and extremely painful. Morphine wont touch it. The treatment is to pour the hottest water the patient can stand directly into the wound, and get them to a hospital ASAP...

[Dagwood 57]

Are Stingray Barbs Venomous??

My understanding it they don't sting and inject venom like a wasp or bee but they are covered in a Mucus that is toxic. Regardless they are a nasty piece of work and loosing a hook and some nylon rather than getting too close is excellent value in my book.

[Island Time 1,246]

From Wikipedia..

 

"The barb is covered with rows of sharp flat spines, composed of vasodentin. Vasodentin is an incredibly strong cartilaginous material which can easily cut through flesh. The undersides of the spines contain two longitudinal grooves which run along the length of the spine and enclose venom-secreting cells. Both the venom-secreting tissues and vasodentin are enveloped in an epidermis that tears open when the barb is plunged into a victim. Some spines may break off as the barb exits the wound and stay within the victim causing prolonged envenoming."

 

So, yes venomous, and basically injected with the barb. Any wound should be opened and properly cleaned out in a hospital. Some require pretty serious surgery, depending where the wound is. It is ESSENTIAL to have them properly cleaned. Any remaining foreign matter (apart from the likelihood of further venom, and serious pain) will cause an infection and prolong the recovery period.

[erice 732]

these guys venomous too

 

 

just the older males

 

for killing the younger males

[Black Panther 1,593]

I have had stingray through my foot. Most painful thing ever. Boiling water and good Mexican drugs.

[DrWatson 381]

Pro tip. 

 

Take tea spoon, put it in cup of boiling water.

 

remove from water and allow to cool to point where touching it only invokes mild screams (ie just not quite hot enough to burn you)

 

Apply to wife's mosquito bites - 10 s per bite.

 

Happy (happier) wife.

 

 

Many venoms, being proteins and peptides, will irreversibly denature at around 80°C, some, unfortunately refold perfectly upon cooling and carry on like there was no problem. Sometimes you'll need higher temperatures... Should work for bee venom - I've never tried it though and can't find studies on the thermal denaturation of melittin and apamin.

 

I guess hot candle wax would also work... 

[erice 732]

thanks Dr.

 

will remember that

 

some years ago had a bone spur on shoulder 

 

caused a lot of pain while dissolving away

 

hot baths and sitting with the shoulder as close to a fire as bearable seemed the only non-medicine ways

 

to reduce the pain