El Toro 97 Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 Hi, Serada dont make them anymore and Challenge/Marvel only make one but it requires an outside vent. Will try Calypso. Amazed at how hard it has become to to find something suitible. Alot of people have talked about the regs, but none, not even my gassfitter actually know what they are! Thanks Hans, Ive sent Muz so deep east he wont be back in RT range for ages! Link to post Share on other sites
tuffyluffy 76 Posted September 2, 2010 Author Share Posted September 2, 2010 Amazed at how hard it has become to to find something suitible. Alot of people have talked about the regs, but none, not even my gassfitter actually know what they are! Ive had the same issue. Appears there is a fair bit of "discretion' involved which doesnt really help. Im keeping my Cat 1 inspector in the loop with my install so i dont have issues down the track. Link to post Share on other sites
Jon 360 Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 This is our installation below Really no difference than boiling the kettle Link to post Share on other sites
wheels 543 Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 requires an outside vent. They all have to be vented outside. Thats now part of the law. You can not have the exhaust inside the cabin. The "regs" are just standard Gas installation rules, nothing special, with the one addition for boats being that of the Gas locker having a drain so that any leaking Gas will be drained out and over the side of the boat, so no Gas can seep back down inside the boat. You can only have a certified Gas installer do the work, which is like any Gas installation. Link to post Share on other sites
ab1974 1 Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 speaking of gas installs, whare the the regs for a gas 2 burner stove. Bottle is in the locker with an overboard drain. Pipe needs to run under the single bunk to the cooker. Looks like a simple bbq type set up to me - just with a longer gas pipe (2m run). Can I use flexi pipe or do I need a gas installer to install copper? Link to post Share on other sites
El Toro 97 Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 So wheels are you saying that now Jons one is illegal, or only ones that are installed from now on need external venting? Link to post Share on other sites
wheels 543 Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 Can anyone tell me why Our Gvt websites are such a Pain in the A to find anything on? Talk about frustrating, going around and around in circles. They are usless. You find a heading, click on the heading and all you get is an expansion of the heading. PC, sorry I don't know. I am going to continue to search for info. The latest regs came in 4th May this year. But it seems it was just an ammendmant and nothing related to our topic. The next lot of changes seems to be 2006. I am trying to find greater detail, but so far, that doesn't seem to relate either. The main Act is 1993. By the way, the Marine installation is the same as Motorhome/Caravan if that helps. As far as i am aware, the califonts are suppoed to be exhaust vented to outside to eliminate the biuld up of Co2. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 Mine is installed under a hatch that will always be open when it is operating. That is a vent. Link to post Share on other sites
ballystick 72 Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 i think wheels means CO or carbon monoxide build up - if there is a fault in the system and incomplete combustion occurs, the occupants of the yacht may wake up dead - oxymoron Link to post Share on other sites
wheels 543 Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 LPG gives off Co2 and water when it burns and yes, the hatch works as a vent. I can not find anything relating to venting a system, which is strange. Maybe it was just something discussed and not actually mnade law. I know it has been a big issue with people using those Gas heaters in confined spaces. Several have woken up dead. Here is something very interesting however. It seems that any installation that is supplied by a bottle under 15Kg, does not have to be certified. 50 Exemptions from requirement to certify gasfitting(1) This regulation, regulation 48, and regulations 51 and 53 do not apply to— (a) any work on any pipes or fittings supplied with liquid petroleum gas from any portable gas storage container or containers that contain or together contain less than 15 kg of liquid petroleum gas; or ( any gasfitting that replaces an installation’s appliance with a like-for-like appliance where the work on the replacement appliance, or the replacement appliance itself, does not result in repositioning of pipework, repositioning of flue system components, change in the installation pressure, significant change in the energy consumption, change in the ventilation, or change to the operation of the installation. (2) In this regulation, replacement includes refitting (where the same appliance is removed, fixed, and then put back) as well as replacement (where an appliance is removed and replaced with a similar appliance (ie, a gas oven)). 51 Link to post Share on other sites
El Toro 97 Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 Hmm well that is interesting.. does that apply to all gas fittings? Link to post Share on other sites
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