Kevin McCready 83 Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 Is it just me or has anyone else been stuck awkwardly in a cradle in the water during haul out, and unable to go forwards or backwards? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
erice 732 Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 if the tides are right the cradle has been positioned correctly you aren't late etc you should have 1/2 meter? of tide to move your boat, via lines to the cradle, to your ideal position between the up-rights (mast 1 mtr behind the fwd upright???) what am i missing? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin McCready 83 Posted September 25, 2019 Author Share Posted September 25, 2019 Thanks Erice. yep. but have you seen people stuck inside the cradle at a weird angle? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Black Panther 1,587 Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 Put on a mask and have a quick look? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
erice 732 Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 fwd + aft or side to side side to side would be an improper setting of the cradle arms + beam width fwd + aft would be an improper understanding of the where the keel was, and slope of keel base??? very much how long is a bit of string we are supposed to kowtow to the pros but in the case of our own boats probably know more than them... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin McCready 83 Posted September 25, 2019 Author Share Posted September 25, 2019 I have a feeling there are cradles and cradles. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chariot 243 Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 I was once hauled with the keel missing the chanel. Didn't know until boat started bumping along the ramp. Luckily I was able to go back down and level up and come out with no damage. Haulout crew had indicated that i was level. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vorpal Blade 89 Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 I do a lot of haulouts on cradles like yours at Little Shoal Bay, the biggest mistake we see is a mismatch between the gunwale dimensions and where the cradle arms are set. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin McCready 83 Posted September 25, 2019 Author Share Posted September 25, 2019 Vorpal, what happens when there's a mismatch between boat width and cradle arms? Have you seen many accidents or near misses? Does anyone know about different cradle designs and channel widths? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chariot 243 Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 I always set the cradle arms up myself. Had a storey rod made up for my boat width and draught. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin McCready 83 Posted September 25, 2019 Author Share Posted September 25, 2019 Thanks chariot. The width bit I get, but how does depth affect the cradle setting. Does it mean you lower the cradle further into the water? Or lower the cradle until a certain point on the cradle arms reaches the water? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chariot 243 Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 Depends on the shape of your hull and the distance between the arms at the bottom. You require the right width at deck level not the top of the arms so you need the distance from bottom of keel to deck level. If too tight you will jamb in the cradle. I always set up with 100mm spare each side and tied the mast base to the forward cradle arms before going up the slipway. The 100mm could be different if the boat has a very full hull shape. Had 2 big timber wedges I used once the cradle was in place in the yard. Always make sure the boat is level before hauling. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vorpal Blade 89 Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 Keel not in channel and owner has just realised.... then the tide goes out a bit.... and it all turns to carp The port side cradle arms couldn't hold the boat upright and collapsed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vorpal Blade 89 Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 There was minimal damage to the boat. We alwasys recommend what Chariot said about the wedges to tighten the boat up against the uprights. Do not pull the cradle arms into the hull as this unloads the diagonal bracing and the boat will fall over sideways. A good keel guide to get you into the channel properly is useful, as is a stop so you put the centre of gravity in the centre of the cradle. It really helps to know the underwater geometry of the boat, particularly if the bottom edge of the keel is not horizontal. Multis on the other hand don't have this problem. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kevin McCready 83 Posted September 26, 2019 Author Share Posted September 26, 2019 Wow. Thanks for all that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
harrytom 643 Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 I was once hauled with the keel missing the chanel. Didn't know until boat started bumping along the ramp. Luckily I was able to go back down and level up and come out with no damage. Haulout crew had indicated that i was level. Bob Roach special?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chariot 243 Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 You're onto it HT Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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