John B 106 Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 291 is the common utility sika for bedding down etc. Small tubes from the chandlery. When you come back after a month and the nozzle is all sealed up you can prick a hole in the tube and scavenge out the rest, or if the job you're working on has gone bad , stab it with a screwdriver. if you can countersink the bolt holes in the deck ,that forms an extra little O ring of sealant which helps prevent leaks after you've popped the brace in a 30 knot squall, smacked the pole on the forestay and rebent the staunchion inwards to a 15 degree angle just like it was before you got it straightened. Link to post Share on other sites
banaari 27 Posted May 1, 2013 Author Share Posted May 1, 2013 Was it sikaflex 192? It is indeed Sikaflex 291. Of which I happen to have most of a tube The 3 port stanchions were removed last night and dropped off for welding this morning. So far, for: (a) Rebuilding the rudder brackets with larger-diameter pintles ( Straightening one stanchion, welding end caps and guide tubes into all 3 © Fabricating stainless backing plates to replace the existing plywood Less than $180 Link to post Share on other sites
banaari 27 Posted May 1, 2013 Author Share Posted May 1, 2013 (...) and rebent the staunchion inwards to a 15 degree angle just like it was before you got it straightened. Nooooooooo ! Link to post Share on other sites
Battleship 100 Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Don't use a hard setting compound as they will eventually leak as they get knocked around and can be a bitch to remove and reseal. Just saying. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 Slight thread diversion.....but I seems to me that stanchions across the board seem to be pretty weakly attached things at best. I'm very happy to be corrected, but I cant help thinking that when you really need them most.....you know....big wave....washed across the deck.....grab the top wire as the last stop before a swim with the dolphins......The forces on a two or three little bolts/screws are massive with that sort of moment arm (top to bottom of the stanchion). I've yet to see one that I'd have confidence in if my life depended on it......and, in the end, isn't that really what they're there for??? Link to post Share on other sites
Grinna 2 Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 In my opinion, stanchions and lifelines really only mark the edge of the deck. If you're seriously relying on them to keep you on the boat then I believe there's something wrong with your planning. Jacklines are supposed to stop you leaving the boat, lifelines are of limited value in keeping crew onboard in serious conditions. They're useful for retaining crew in mild conditions (maybe) and they tend to give people a sense of security, but that's about it. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 I have come up against one once, but it was more a balance thing than a giant deck sweeping wave, but it was on dusk and plenty of wind and scared the pants off Angela, I am glad it held. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 .... and they tend to give people a sense of security...... Bit of a false sense of security though..... Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 Surely there is a better way? Why cant they be attached more securely without being butt ugly and impeding movement between the topsides and coaming???? Link to post Share on other sites
Chewing Gum 17 Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 A few weeks ago I slipped while going forward to drop the anchor (and it was dead calm in a bay !). Went through the lifelines between top and middle wire and ended up upside down over the side of the boat. The only thing that saved me was hooking my arm over the top wire as I went through. plenty of bruises from that one. Since then when moving around the boat I take it slow and slide my hand along the wire as a steady. Best sealant I have found is Sikaflex MS (Placemakers). It is very flexible and never lets water in. sailed to Nelson andback via the west coast and no deck leaks anywhere. The other advantage over some the tougher sealants is the ease of removal of fittings without wrecking them. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 The only thing that saved me was hooking my arm over the top wire as I went through. Did you damage the stanchion fastenings, or did they hold up ok? Link to post Share on other sites
Chewing Gum 17 Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 The only thing that saved me was hooking my arm over the top wire as I went through. Did you damage the stanchion fastenings, or did they hold up ok? Not a problem, but what I don't like is when people try to manouevre the boat by pulling on the tops of the stanchions - way too much leverage on the base. Link to post Share on other sites
Dambo 44 Posted May 2, 2013 Share Posted May 2, 2013 Last season we had a bit of a rough one on my mates wee boat - I was catapulted over the coach-house and though the life lines with arms flailing - I stopped and they held up just fine. I do think they give a false sense of security though, and this is born out by the amount of pressure people tend to put on them as per: .. what I don't like is when people try to manouevre the boat by pulling on the tops of the stanchions - way too much leverage on the base. This just makes me cry - I see it so often. To my horror, I discovered that mine were merely bolted with penny washers through the ply deck - all now have SS plates on the under-side but I still don't trust them... Link to post Share on other sites
banaari 27 Posted July 20, 2013 Author Share Posted July 20, 2013 Final outcome: Stanchion unbent, endcaps and guide tubes fitted to all six, and six stainless crushplates cut for the princely sum of $180. Now there is Sikaflex in places I'd rather there weren't, but that's better than the converse situation. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 looks flash to me Link to post Share on other sites
gurge 0 Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Not sure whether to comment on how good a jobs been made on the stanchion or the mooring with the view. Link to post Share on other sites
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