Black Panther

There's probably a lot in this thread to encourage buyers.

Woohoo- we are famous. She says a new imported 12-metre Bavaria 41 keeler can be purchased for $325,000 with extras. Similar-sized New Zealand second-hand boats are going for $270,000, and "they're old boats with old issues", she said. I'd say 270k for a 2nd hand 40 ft boat is too much Just one example http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/boats-m ... 989091.htm Which I would prefer over a Bav 41 at any price. Go figure.

Just be thankful you aren't female and black

What does a second hand replacement cost?

geez- I am sure a saw a spare couple of mil lying around the house the other day, now where was it?

There are property forums????

Fascinating. I was about to comment that this forum wouldn't affect anything, but that post has me reconsidering. I am now officially uncertain.

You can't have mine, it's not for sale.

I think MB is describing me

You also need to consider societal changes since the 70's. The rich have got richer , the poor have got poorer and the middle class is shrinking.

Labour weekend is looming on the horizon

Agree. That's what i do when I need to sell a car, it always works.

Fowl Play

Gulls just wanna have fun

Gullible Men

Ply/foam/ply?

Seemed like a pleasant enough trip, but I'm with IT, one person who can say "nothing to worry about - that's normal" can do a lot to calm a rookie crew. Lucky nothing bad happened.

The dutchman is cool, but probably not worth the hassle or expense on a boat your size. If I may offer a suggestion - do what needs to be done to get sailing, then go sailing, then decide what additions/alterations are necessary. When we bought BP I had a long list of things I Wanted to do. Luckily I can't start them as I have to finish paying for the boat first. But surprisingly the list is now way, way shorter as i learn that what was put there by the designer and the previous two owners is actually pretty smart.

You boat has the measles! Did you go to Armageddon?

Initial viewing says not many bolts and all in one row.

And they didn't notice the keel had snapped off?

One of my favourite sailing bloggers is Bob Wise, owner and builder of the original Loose Moose. I tried to find his entry on this but couldn't so will paraphrase as best I can: turning up in an anchorage in a boat so far outside the norm meant we were subject to quite some abuse from people offended by the appearance of our boat. I always considered it a useful "bigot filter" so I'd know who to avoid. Apologies for the thread drift.

The cheek of the man, sailing an obviously unsafe boat that looks different from here to Vanuatu then Borneo, after successfully sailing from the US to NZ. Has he no shame? Back to the subject - Open CPN is fantastic.

Have you tried Henderson BBS

Now you need to do a trip on BP.