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Now based in Seaview Wellington but we will be back for Ssanz, Coastal classic

Cavalier 36 for the 6 years looking to sell and change to the dark side a vindex 350 ltd for me and my 2.5yr old

I had a 2cyl 10hp nanni in my 26footer. It was almost brand new and it was a fantastic engine. I particularly liked that came standard with a oil suction line direct into the sump for easy oil changes and the impeller was the right way round (the cover facing you) for easy changing of the impeller. ... even my yanmar doesn't have those features. Yanmars prices for parts seems to be out of control. If you can keep prices in the acceptable level you should do well!

That's a lot of money for a little boat. Expecially buy the time u add import duty shipping etc

I'm not convinced stuff "picked up" on this thread I have my own suspicions on that. I don't think buyer's are so naive that upon reading this thread their eyes have suddenly been opened to the state of the second hand boat market. There is more to the second hand Market than impressionable first time buyer's scouring forums. Many people buying boat's are highly experienced sailor's that are going bigger, going smaller or getting back into yachting. They know full well the state of the market long before this thread came to the surface. And yes this thread had a reach of x thousands of p

Dambo you weren't sea sick you where sick of the sea! Still beats a hangover thou a

Exactly days of buying boats to make money are over. Even break even is questionable. Alot of enjoyment comes from not just the sailing but also doing the maintenance. That can be rewarding and sometimes enjoyable!

Can't see any second hand 40footer being worth anywhere near that sort of money despite what condition it's in. Stuff are well off here. They maybe asking 270 but that doesn't mean its worth that. Also pox doesn't mean a boat is worthless at all how many boats have sunk from pox? Fixing pox is expensive like anything if u sit on your hands and pay someone to do it all for you. The big question who rang stuff! !??

I'm very careful what I say about the Aratere and my comments are always positive. I'm only defending kiwirail and the Aratere from the haters out there! I don't doubt people read forums. I never disputed that, My orginal point was the market has been low well before July of this year when this thread started. Any way time to change tack this is becoming a yawn

Interesting point and I get what ur saying. I see it as that the 2nd hand boat market has been on a downward trend well before the 23rd of july 2014 when this post began. So I can't reasonably believe that this forum will have any negative effect based on the market having already been down for a long time. But you've definitely got me thinking about the follow on effect of forums both good and bad. I also dislike the negativity about our kiwi boats. I'm passionate about nz boats I have one! ...Maybe if we started a positive post about the great days sailing we have all had on our kiwi w

I still don't see that this forum will have any effect on the state of the 2nd hand boat market. Most people are aware that boat prices have fallen and that there are plenty of supposed "bargian's" out there long before we started chatting honestly about it. I have only met a couple of good broker's most seem to work for themselves and making a sale is cash in their pocket so more important than preserving the market. I agree there are some real dreamers on trade me expecting big money for some pretty average boat's. The good well maintained boat's will sell but it takes time to get throu

Bng: Im pretty sure a forum doesn't have to ability to influence the market for "awb" most people in a position to buy awb will be well aware of the state of the market. A quick chat to a broker will leave them in doubts if they had any to begin with. With regards to the cookson I was being humorous! Relax a little Trading from one boat to another is all about the remaning balance between the two. If I could get a cookson 50 for half what they are asking for them they could have the Cav for free.

Can the train wreck hit a couple of cookson 50 first! Wouldn't mind one of those bad boys

Our yacht Club is like that. There seems to be more funerals than anything else. I brought my first keel boat nearly ten years ago and I was the youngest owner on our race track. Fast forward a few years... and I'm still the youngest. The only members the boat club seems to be attracting is fizz boats so they can use the launching ramp. My bestie just brought a farr 1020 & already the shock the bills rolling in for it has given him a reality check!

Tried going costal or offshore in a mc38? Or making a coffee? Or Anchoring? Or standing up? Or spending the weekend with the kids on board? Don't think the mc38 does any distance sailing like the sorc, clipper use to. The last race in the clipper was near on 400nm stuff that in a mc38 thats a day boat. I think that's a bit of leap between a 70's boat and a mc38. There's more to boating than sending it to the bottom mark. I think a multi would be a better bet than a mc38 for that , Cheaper, faster easier to cruise and prob has more space than the mc. We got our old 70s cav36 up to the is

Totally agree motorbike it would also be interesting to compare the cost of owning a boat compared to the Hey days. We pulled a mast out at Westhaven the other day $100 just to use the mast derrick then we got told we aren't allowed to drive it so a rigger has to come out. Two of them plus travel from miles away makes the total bill nearly $500 bucks for 45 mins work that we could have done easily ourselfs! Gone are the days where I climbed up on the roof of the yacht Club to lash a block and a spinnaker sheet to the front beam of the travel lift so I could raise my mast and lower it in

I think money is the key thing where forgetting. Sure I'd love bbw to draw me a new boat and have cookson build it for me and I'm sure 99% would love to update our old trojans but none of us have the readies up front. Bargians on tme work because ppl think that over time they can re new upgrade etc in reality very little ppl achieve this because just the cost of owning a boat is dear enough. So for us common folk well carry on having just as much fun with our outdated war houses as the guy in his new cookson all be it a little slower

I think that 1104 was a timber top one that need serious amount of work. The boat looked like it had been abandoned for a few years. That 88 at 35k is hard to believe it looks like a good boat! Sometimes I think of getting something bigger faster etc but then selling mine would be hard work because I don't want to give it away. So I just enjoy what I have and what we do with her

The 1020 was definitely not sold for 15k! It did sell for what seems like a bargin but mainly because the owner's where overseas and needed out asap. That was more the situation that created the bargin not the type of boat or condition creating the bargin. Me personally I think a bendy boat or a janola bottle (jeanneau?) Would be fine if you want something that looks more like an apartment block than a boat and you didn't intend to leave the relative shelter of the hauraki. Every few years the imports bring out a newer model which makes the older ones worth less just like a car. As much

Me either especially with the amount of docking it had to do. I hear the whole build was on the c#@&p!

She's got a total of 6 engines running on heavy fuel. 4 are around 4,500kws each and the other 2 are around 1,200kws each. They run constant rpms and feed electrical power to a main board which then sends power to two megastars (basically eletric motors) that drive to shafts. The beauty of this system is that any engine can feed power to the board which supplies power to the bow thrusters and also ships supply (lights hydraulics, galley ac etc) the board megastar conbination also makes changes in load easier on the main engines. The downside is that the props aren't cpp (controlled pit

Does seem like it all adds up to be your fault lol. You havnt book on any planes lately? !

A few issues for me. Firstly no way the life raft should have escaped like that. Secondly auto pilot failure I dnt see as a big deal unless ur solo or two up. We've always hand steered esp when it's rough. Auto pilots are reactive humans are proactive. When sailing rough weather people should do a better job at avoiding the big ones the knock downs etc. Thirdly the steering gear looks like it's made up of bailing twine and climbing fittings I'm not surprised it broke. Lastly maybe I underestimate the sea state but to me that didn't look like 7meters. Granted I was on my comfy couch bu

They run 24/7 normally late night sailings are dangerous goods (I use to think bombs and stuff but mainly chemicals doh) so limited number of passengers. Lengthening ships is very common throughout the rest of the world and has worked very successfully I think the major problem here is the part of the world we are in. Normally sea state pattern frequency wave period etc are taken into account when contemplating lengthening. The issue wellington has is that the sea state etc can very so much. Big ocean swells in the strait, big short confused seas at karori, 6 return trips a day. I think this

OK I guess I better enter into the conversation. Imho the main issue the tere has, is it's time table. The extension very publicly cost a lot more than budgeted or expected. The only way to get those costs back was to make the tere work to earn her keep which meant three return sailings a day. The down side to three sailings a day is that it only leaves 50minutes turn around. That's 50 minutes to unload passangers, cars, trucks, trains and then reload passangers cars trucks trains & take on fuel. Planes don't even load unload this quickly! You can see how one truck that won't start,