bikini69 0 Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Anyone else aware of these new bylaws about to come into place in the next few weeks that will see an end of an era for New Zealand? it will be an offence for anyone to be in charge of a vessel who is intoxicated by alcohol or drugs from labour weekend onward http://www.aucklandcouncil.govt.nz/EN/l ... bylaw.aspx I certainly haven't seen this advertised lately? has anyone else? Link to post Share on other sites
Black Panther 1,801 Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 If they don't advertise they can fine lots of people and make lots of money??? Link to post Share on other sites
Rats 55 Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 The statement in the bylaws seems to imply zero tolerance Surely they would have to apply the DUI criteria here would they not? Or are the fun police going to stop you even having a glass of plonk at lunchtime? I understand we need something in place for the occasional idiot and NZ Police and Maritime NZ can already throw the book if they are inclined to but why does this sort of draconian BS it have to impact everyone. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 The relevant clause actually says that the skipper must not be under the influence of alcohol or drugs to the extent that they are incapable of controlling the vessel. Sounds fair enough. Link to post Share on other sites
Adrianp 137 Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 I notice the exemption for no life jackets in Dinghys traveling to/from the mothership is gone. Good to know I'll be breaking the new bylaw every week while travelling to the mooring in knee to neck deep water. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 The laws are there so if someone does something silly the bureaucrats can loudly proclaim 'It wasn't us and they were silly because they broke the law'. If it's not then can anyone suggest how they intend to police the by laws with bugger all boats and less staff. Link to post Share on other sites
Dambo 44 Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 I notice the exemption for no life jackets in Dinghys traveling to/from the mothership is gone. Good to know I'll be breaking the new bylaw every week while travelling to the mooring in knee to neck deep water. Yeah,,... what happened to that? I'm sure it was in the 'final draft' why wasn't it kept? Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 I notice the exemption for no life jackets in Dinghys traveling to/from the mothership is gone. Good to know I'll be breaking the new bylaw every week while travelling to the mooring in knee to neck deep water. The bylaw states that lifejackets must be worn by anyone in a boat 6m or less, unless the skipper expressly gives passengers permission not to do so. So wearing lifejackets is still discretionary - which seems reasonable. Link to post Share on other sites
Chewing Gum 17 Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 As I understand it you have to have lifejackets in your dinghy at all times. As I see it my RIB is by far the best lifejacket. Link to post Share on other sites
Dambo 44 Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 The bylaw states that lifejackets must be worn by anyone in a boat 6m or less, unless the skipper expressly gives passengers permission not to do so. So wearing lifejackets is still discretionary - which seems reasonable. As I recall, the draft had a clearly worded exemption along the lines a tender traveling between a moored or anchored vessel and the shore in reasonable weather conditions. I think their current exemption is somewhat ambiguously worded for someone who has a moored boat and hardly ever wears a LJ for the 50 meter row. If I want to duck out to the boat in my lunch-break on a sunny day, I don't believe I'm at risk and I won't be carrying a LJ. Let's be honest - I can swim the distance but may prefer to stay dry. I wasn't too worried by the law change because, as I said, in the final draft I'm sure it had a specifically worded exemption. I'm assuming (dangerous, I know) that I'll continue to row in and out sans LJ. My concern is that some small-minded bureaucratic type will decide my behaviour contravenes the law and decides to make an example of it... Link to post Share on other sites
Black Panther 1,801 Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 +1 Link to post Share on other sites
grant 46 Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 I'm assuming (dangerous, I know) that I'll continue to row in and out sans LJ. My concern is that some small-minded bureaucratic type will decide my behaviour contravenes the law and decides to make an example of it... you do know that most of the "small-minded bureaucratic type" up there are acutely boaties that do much the same stuff that you do right?? Link to post Share on other sites
Adrianp 137 Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 I'm assuming (dangerous, I know) that I'll continue to row in and out sans LJ. My concern is that some small-minded bureaucratic type will decide my behaviour contravenes the law and decides to make an example of it... you do know that most of the "small-minded bureaucratic type" up there are acutely boaties that do much the same stuff that you do right?? Yep, but it only takes one Councilor/Polly to start asking about the enforcement of the rules, and suddenly these guys will be policing the rules and handing out fines. Waikato Regional Council were fining people last summer I understand. Link to post Share on other sites
Chewing Gum 17 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Three separate drowning incidents in the last week. Watch out for more draconian laws (which wont make any difference to the death toll). Link to post Share on other sites
erice 732 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 4 people in a 12' dinghy? http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/artic ... d=11343478 probably not enough elbow space for them to wear lifejackets not even the ones that couldn't swim http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/artic ... d=11343081 but those are crimes against yourself i'm more worried by dangerous dogs that not even the owners can predict muzzle them all all the time http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/artic ... d=11343339 http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/artic ... d=11342997 http://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/local-n ... brought-up Link to post Share on other sites
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