Paul61 0 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Does anchoring involve steering or sailing? Maritime NZ referenced Rule 22 when stating recently that a proper look-out must be maintained at all times, even when anchored: Collision Prevention. Section 1 - Steering and Sailing: "Every vessel must at all times maintain a proper look-out by sight and hearing as well as by all available means ..." 1.1.22.5 * However, the Section is headed "Steering and Sailing" so, while it seems certain that a look-out must be maintained whenever steering and sailing, no one is steering or sailing when anchored so the obligation to maintain a look-out seems not to apply. The Rule goes on to specify anchored-specific lights and shapes that must be displayed. It seems likely that the original law-makers required sailors to display their anchored state to warn other sailors that there mightn't be anyone on watch (among other purposes,) which was surely common at the time on recreational craft and continues to this day. People have been sleeping on anchored boats and leaving them unattended while stretching their legs ashore throughout this Rule's life without any attention from law enforcers. So either the Rule has been ignored or the Rule allows it. "Steering and Sailing" doesn't prima facia include anchored so the enforcers who have ignored absent or sleeping sailors at anchor until now seem to have had it right. If Maritime NZ decided to act on this seemingly unprecedented interpretation against anchoring, the first person charged would likely face a demanding, burdensome, protracted, expensive ordeal. But they might also triumph. Thoughts? Paul ps. I am only talking about anchoring. My reading of the Rule (and the ColRegs) is that the situation is much different underway, when a look-out is required. *<Full Rule attached> Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CarpeDiem 506 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 The rule has been ignored. It's been a requirement since "forever". This has been covered a few times in a few threads on crew. There's quite a bit of international case law. Some dating back over a 100 years, where anchored boats have been found a contributing factor in an incident cause they did not have a look out. This has been applied to both commercial and recreational vessels. MaritimeNZ interpretation comes down from the treaty and prior international case law. One previous thread with more content is over here: 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
harrytom 671 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 One would think being in a well known well patronized anchorage. A anchor light would be all that is required,day shapes for vessels over 20m from memory. But if one anchored say off a island or bay rather than it,ie anchored off Orewa then possibly a anchor watch or at least a glance every hour to make one hasnt dragged etc As with ships anchored in the anchorage area off Rangi not only must display Anchor light but shall light up decks as well.Not sure if the lighting of decks is a local by law or not. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
alibaba 80 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 Anchored overnight, no anchor light etc, dragged into another vessel, then yes, I guess you might be held responsible for any damage. I've certainly had problems in the past with inexperienced boaties anchoring closely and not setting their anchors correctly with enough scope etc. However, being proactive, having both and anchor light on which illuminates your vessel, and having an anchor drag alarm set, I think commonsense applies. Given that we have 'phone coverage around most of NZ at the moment, and anchor alarm apps on phones are readily available, it shouldn't be a problem. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
khayyam 83 Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 https://www.yachtingnz.org.nz/news/anchor-watch-rule-ynz-welcomes-sensible-new-interpretation 2 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DrWatson 382 Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 On 9/01/2024 at 2:15 AM, harrytom said: As with ships anchored in the anchorage area off Rangi not only must display Anchor light but shall light up decks as well.Not sure if the lighting of decks is a local by law or not. Rule 30, Vessels at anchor or aground part c. A vessel at anchor may, and for vessels over 100m shall, show available working lights to illuminate her decks 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
motorb 35 Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 "A proper lookout is not required at all times at anchor. However, at times a proper lookout will be required at anchor, such as when the prevailing circumstances and conditions indicate a risk to vessels or people. "Generally accepted standards of seamanship will always apply, even if a continuous watch is not required. The master is responsible for ensuring an adequate watch is kept that is appropriate for the conditions, such as intermittent checks and the use of anchor alarms." common sense prevails! becoming a rare event these days it seems. On 5/05/2024 at 2:00 AM, DrWatson said: Rule 30, Vessels at anchor or aground part c. A vessel at anchor may, and for vessels over 100m shall, show available working lights to illuminate her decks good - I'd never get any sleep with deck lights shining into the cabin! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Black Panther 1,670 Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 We have blackout curtains for use in marinas. Also have few houses that seem scared of the dark. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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