Megwyn 2 Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 So, in view of the overboard incidents - do you or do you not don your PFD before you go forward? Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJohnB 322 Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 No But I wear a lifejacket. No anchor on a PT. Link to post Share on other sites
w44vi 17 Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 I do in cook strait if its ruff and clip on to the jack stays, but not normally in the harbour or racing racing (keel boats) always when racing in dinghy s Link to post Share on other sites
John B 106 Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 What overboard incidents? I wear a lifejacket when its appropriate. edit, you must mean the Tauranga boat. A bit soon for that assumption at this stage. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 If solo generally a Yes and it's always a Yes after sunset or if the weather is shite sun up or down. If 2 up, yes but usually only after dark or the weather is shite. Sometimes during the day if the weather is a shocker. Fully crewed, No If offshore, Yes in all crap weather and especially Yes after dark. In dingys, it depends on the dingy but generally No unless it's a race rule. Had a cussy and on another occasion nearly lost the now Wa, both due to being caught in lifejackets which got caught in the rigging holding them underwater. Only one of those 2 came up still alive. The same often applies to safety harness also, I/We tend to group the 2 together as it's hard to put on a harness under a PFD if the PFD is already being worn. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 In Wgtn Harbour and Queen Charlotte Sound - no. Cook Strait - Always, and always clipped on too. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 In Wellington Harbour, under 30 knots, no. In Queen Charlotte Sound, under 30 knots, no. In Cook Strait, always. Over 30 knots, yes. Link to post Share on other sites
203 0 Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 When the weather is bad, then yes, Or when the skipper tells me to put one on. Fully crewed, No Dinghy- Its a rule for at any club you go to, that you HAVE to wear a floatation device. Once you have a feel for the boat, then You will know your limits, having the life lines helps, I know multi's dont have them.. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Always 1 Up, unless it's pretty flat and daylight Always 2 up, unless both on deck or calm conditions. Link to post Share on other sites
G Force 0 Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 On the GBE we have a rule that when you shorten sail, and if reefed yes time for pfd. Link to post Share on other sites
wheels 543 Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 It has to be pretty ruff for it to start worrying our boat and then, only if I am out in it. Otherwise we are inside in the Pilot hous or "Storm Room" as I have heard someone call their Pilothouse. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Delivering the Catana 471 on of the crew asked about it. Seemed a bit silly, to fall over you would have to take a running jump at the side of the boat. But wrestling an errant forestay in 20kn in the Indian Ocean I was harnessed up. Always preferred a harness to a lifejacket. My Offshore kit had buoyancy built in. not legal but I have tested it in the wave pool, it supported me and I swam a couple of lengths for good measure. Same jacket also has an integral harness. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 I wonder about wearing life jackets and if they are as safe as we presume. If down below and say the keel detaches and the yacht inverts, water coming aboard then trying to swim down deeper to get out through a hatch with a inflated jacket seems doomed to me. Also getting hooked up in the rigging as KM mentions. Trying to swim with one on looks like a lot of trouble. In a way they make us give up control of the situation to a sort of mindless get to the top energy when it could be better to go below. But yes I usually wear one because I'm mostly shorthanded. Carrying a waterproof mobile phone is a big plus when coastal. Link to post Share on other sites
John B 106 Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 I think some of you guys would be surprised as to just how much use an inflatable lifejacket is without crotch straps. Better than nothing if you're in the tide I suppose, but you'll be worn out pretty fast trying to hold the thing down. Link to post Share on other sites
ab1974 1 Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 If only a crotch strap would be made that is comfortable to both sit and stand in without having to continously adjust it. Maybe its just me......... Link to post Share on other sites
Fogg 427 Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Lifejacket always at night when in cockpit or on deck. Plus harness for going on deck at night or in a big blow. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Rocket Posted February 14, 2012 Share Posted February 14, 2012 Only ever have a harness with PFD (and crotch straps). Rule on our boats is harness always offshore. Harness at nights coastal (but I never seem to remember to put my harness on as it gets dark....) Link to post Share on other sites
Megwyn 2 Posted February 14, 2012 Author Share Posted February 14, 2012 (but I never seem to remember to put my harness on as it gets dark....) Rules are made to be broken Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 I think some of you guys would be surprised as to just how much use an inflatable lifejacket is without crotch straps. Better than nothing if you're in the tide I suppose, but you'll be worn out pretty fast trying to hold the thing down. 100% Totally agree. I wore one for many years without a strap and it was only after I had to use it once did it become very obvious why a crutch strap is a damn good must have thing. I was in the water for nearly an hour and holding the bloody jacket down so I could breath knackered me. The next day 6 straps were brought and fitted, or 4 were as I got 2 for spares. Until I went splash I would have pooh poohed anyone who said straps were 'essential'. Now I've swung 180 degrees on that thinking, straps are definitely essential. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 For anyone who gets annoyed about crotch straps, simply set it up and then just have it resting against your hip. If you were to get wet the crotch strap is already there and easily put on properly. Link to post Share on other sites
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