Black Panther 1,776 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Ani.als are a problem entering many countries. Not sure id wait ten years but that's probably another thread. More an essay really. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bad Kitty 329 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Performance & Fontaine don't belong in the same sentence sorry. Nor "build quality" & Fontaine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Black Panther 1,776 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 After three long passages im a fan of Catana.. better performance than the others ( except maybe outremer) easy to live on and well thought out. Out of my price range though, and theres something cool about saying " the black schooner". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chariot 244 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 After three long passages im a fan of Catana.. better performance than the others ( except maybe outremer) easy to live on and well thought out. Out of my price range though, and theres something cool about saying " the black schooner". That's because it's one very cool boat. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bad Kitty 329 Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 After three long passages im a fan of Catana.. better performance than the others ( except maybe outremer) easy to live on and well thought out. Out of my price range though, and theres something cool about saying " the black schooner". Yep out of the Production Cats I'd say, Outremer then Catana. Seawind are well built & sail ok but no boards hurts them badly upwind. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bad Kitty 329 Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 As for a "black schooner", if you're limiting yourself to half a boat that's a pretty cool 1/2! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
El Toro 115 Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 You're hurting my feelings Bad Kitty.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bad Kitty 329 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 You're hurting my feelings Bad Kitty.... Ooops, sh*t, just slipped further down the waiting list for the Man O War yacht club membership didn't I? Gotta remember to think before talking! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
El Toro 115 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 I can confirm they can hold alot of supplies. Though I did hit 16.4 on way to Barrier last xmas.... warp speed, wife and in laws screaming...was highlight of my trip to be honest... sure beat the 14 hour motor back from the Mercs Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chariot 244 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 14hrs, where did you motor to? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
El Toro 115 Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 Orakei.... most of it was a mill pond Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TwoSail 1 Posted July 29, 2019 Author Share Posted July 29, 2019 how about this Trimaran, bought for the berth in Tauranga and it is being almost given away?? https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/boats-marine/yachts/multihull/auction-2189850800.htm?rsqid=292c282d406d49d2a9f796e02104012f-003 i get wary of self builds, but I have to admit that price for the size of that Tri is affordable NOW. Would a boat surveyor show up if this is structurally sound enough for bluewater cruising? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TwoSail 1 Posted July 29, 2019 Author Share Posted July 29, 2019 I'm not super familiar with the Bahia 46 but fountain pajots aren't really known for their amazing performance. Just had a look at a Bahia 46 on trademe and it looks to have no boards and a massive heavy looking interior. Doesn't scream performance. Yes they are big, but they did show up in this top 40 performance. https://www.cruisingworld.com/sailboats/40-best-catamarans-and-trimarans-ever/ But I agree. What I really need is something around 35ft, dagger boards, costs sub $400k and is nice and light. Where the seawind 1000xl2 doesnt have boards, it has shed 500kg, that may be enough to entice many at $329k start price. https://www.sail-world.com/Australia/Seawind-1000XL2-%e2%80%93-There-is-a-reason/-116060?source=google A used Outremer 40 might be the sensible choice for me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TwoSail 1 Posted July 29, 2019 Author Share Posted July 29, 2019 Or Catana 41? Thats the smallest cheapest Catana with Daggers? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TwoSail 1 Posted August 19, 2019 Author Share Posted August 19, 2019 I think for now Im just going to get a monohull for weekend and holidays, something like pacific 38. A pilothouse rig would be nice. Lotus 10.6. Im struggling to think of others that fall in the speedy cruiser category.Get its surveyed well and my biggest fear, have the Rudder serviced to make sure she aint coming off. You can get some nice boats that have been recently fully refitted, new sails, engine, sheets etc for $60-70k. I can handle being on heel for day sails between places. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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