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At first read of this article I thought great - crayfish stocks might catch a break:

 

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=12306199&&ref=recommended

 

But read on - Stuart Nash has been asked to allow them to carry there entitlements forward - the cynic in me thinks there will be those who will say they returned there catch but didn't and carry over the entitlements.

 

 

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I've caught hundreds of crays in my time but all free diving, from the Kaikoura to Spirits Bay. I dont eat them now, apart from the occasional leg and now its as much fun to photograph them as it used to be to catch them. We need a total ban on catching them for ten years in the gulf.

 

When I see all those pots out at Arid it makes me pretty annoyed.

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(A)  best option??

 

Dear Stakeholders
Fisheries New Zealand is seeking feedback on a whether to enable uncaught rock lobster commercial Annual Catch Entitlement (ACE) to be carried forward into the next fishing year (which begins 1 April 2020).
Submissions are open until 12pm on 24 February 2020.
Tell us what you think about the 3 options
The 3 options that we are consulting on are:
A. Retaining the status quo: Making no changes to the Act, and not enabling rock lobster ACE carry forward; or
B. Enabling carry forward of up to 10% of the total rock lobster ACE, if uncaught by individual fishers; or
C. In addition to option B, also enabling the one-off carry forward of all uncaught rock lobster ACE, beyond 10%
Consultation document
Whether to enable Annual Catch Entitlement carry forward for rock lobster [PDF, 1 MB]
Reasons for this consultation
The outbreak of the novel Coronavirus has led to the collapse of demand for live rock lobster in the Chinese market, during the Chinese New Year period. This is typically a period of high live rock lobster demand and high prices. China is the leading export market for live New Zealand rock lobster, accounting for 98% to 99% of all exports.
It is uncertain how long low demand for Chinese exports will continue, or whether the industry will be able to find alternative markets before the end of the fishing year.
For most other species managed within the Quota Management System, ACE holders are able to carry forward up to 10% of their individual total ACE holdings that may not have been caught by the end of the fishing year. However, for all rock lobster stocks no uncaught ACE can be carried forward under the current rules.
There is an opportunity to provide relief to rock lobster fishers highly exposed to the unexpected market impacts of the Coronavirus outbreak, without creating sustainability risks, in conjunction with measures they can take themselves. Enabling ACE carry forward would allow for fishers to defer the catch of rock lobster to the next fishing year, when export markets for live rock lobster are likely to have improved.
Making your submission
Email your feedback on the consultation document by 12pm on 24 February 2020 to FMsubmissions@mpi.govt.nz
In your submission, include:

  • the title of the consultation document
  • your name and title
  • your organisation's name (if you are submitting on behalf of an organisation, and whether your submission represents the whole organisation or a section of it)
  • your contact details (such as phone number, address, and email).

While we prefer email, you can send your submission by post to:
Inshore Fisheries Management
Fisheries New Zealand
PO Box 2526
Wellington 6140
New Zealand.

We look forward to hearing from you.

Kind regards
FM Submissions

Fisheries Management | Fisheries New Zealand – Tini a Tangaroa 
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Yes an interesting subject. I too have taken crays over the years, but in recent years have turned away from it. I have always heard the older guys talking about the good ol days when crays were so dense around our coast you had to push all the small/medium ones aside to get to the big ones. They used to fill bag after bag as there was no limit at the time.

 

I have kids now and I would love for them to have an opportunity to even see some crays one day. I do a lot of sea kayaking and it is literally like some type of skills test out there trying to dodge all the cray pots and lines! 

 

Even in my lifetime I have seen a noticeable decline in cray numbers and a huge increase in fishers. Where I used to snorkel for crays in a few metres of water it is now riddled with pots and the crays have gone bar a few very small ones :-(

 

Nowadays I am happy with kayaking and sailing and taking very little, maybe a pane or two for dinner, I think we need to change our ways.

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I hear you loud and clear, btw a mate of mine saw the biggest packhorse hes ever seen in the gulf recently. In a remote spot but so big he was afraid to grab it even if he wanted too! I like those stories.

 

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slightly related I guess, but seems to be applicable across the board.

 

fill in the missing bit....

 

 

 

 "....when I sat there one day and I thought; 'what I'm listening to is a whole bunch of chick scientists' - and if you really looked at the view that they were pitching - [it] was everybody in New Zealand should not shave their armpits, they should wear dreadlocks, and when they go ________ing they should do it in jandals only. And after they catch one patty for tea they should sit down hold hands and sing kumbaya. That was the feeling I got."

 

:)

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Not quite sure what youre saying but Ive seen hunting greed first hand and we'd all be better off if people only took a fair share for their tables. The cray fishery is hammered, totally smashed by professionals and amateurs alike, I can see it as most people who have dived for 40 years can. Best thing would be a total moratorium for a significant period especially in the gulf.

 

When I was a kid I found a nest of crays north of the ninepin in the BOI, super shallow, almost flippers out of the water material. There would have be 100 plus in there including a heap of really massive reds. I think owing to its unique location it had been overlooked pretty much forever but over a period of months me and my mates returned repeatedly and cleaned that cave out. I went back to it next summer then multiple times over a 10 year period and it remained empty. Big lesson in greed and damage, and I barely if ever take a cray these days, prefer to check 'em out and show my boys that amazing undersea world. Anyway crays are overrated and are a bit of a status symbol at restaurant.

 

People have short memories, up until the early 60's a working mans lunch was cray and chips in newspaper. One of the regular jobs at my granddads fish shop was to put sugar sacks full of crays into the copper every day or two, 7 minutes for a small one 15 for a big one. Then the boom came and it was priced out of reach. 

 

https://teara.govt.nz/en/video/6288/crayfishing

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slightly related I guess, but seems to be applicable across the board.

 

fill in the missing bit....

 

 

 

 "....when I sat there one day and I thought; 'what I'm listening to is a whole bunch of chick scientists' - and if you really looked at the view that they were pitching - [it] was everybody in New Zealand should not shave their armpits, they should wear dreadlocks, and when they go ________ing they should do it in jandals only. And after they catch one patty for tea they should sit down hold hands and sing kumbaya. That was the feeling I got."

 

:)

 

 

Haven't read any of your stuff but promoting misogynistic attitudes aint going to help the situation.

 

If you mean " too little to late" and nobody with any courage in the ministry of fisheries, (ie no one with balls)

then why don't you say so instead of clouding it with innuendo

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