vic008 17 Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 To extend the life of canvas After say 5yrs, turn your dodger inside out(may need more sewing) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Island Time 1,293 Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 The seems are not normally reversible, the chafe protections and hoop sleeves will be on the wrong side, and so will the clears. Not practical IMO. My current Dodger is about 15 years old, and on its 3rd clears. Canvas is Sunbrella, still a bit of life in it yet.... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Black Panther 1,765 Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 I have wondered about using vinyl. It would last longer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rats 48 Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 The amount spent on reversing everything would make the idea moot and you would have all of the uglier sides up, can't. imagine it being a good look. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fogg 427 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 Certain Sunbrella colours last better than others in NZ sun. Navy blue and black do surprisingly well whereas reds bleach out v fast. I’ve had 10-12 yrs out of blue in the past although as IT says it needed 2-3 clears on the way. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
marinheiro 364 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 how to significantly extend the life of the clears, and keep the cockpit cooler when the sun is low Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJohnB 328 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 MH is that a centercockpit Whiting 45? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
marinheiro 364 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 1 hour ago, SloopJohnB said: MH is that a centercockpit Whiting 45? Farr 13.99 (design no 92), with a little boat builders license actually 14.5m. She has the same profile clipper bow as Ceramco Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John B 113 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 Same as The Night Train? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
marinheiro 364 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 2 hours ago, John B said: Same as The Night Train? more or less, I refer to them as cousin's rather than true sister ships. Mine (Comfort Zone) was to the original design but stretched and there is a second one off the same moulds that to my knowledge has never been launched, I believe still in a shed in Avondale. Interestingly quite a few of her drawings including the lines plan were drawn by Roger Hill in his role as Farr's chief draftsman. Alan Smith/Smith's boat yard Whangarei decided to build these for export to USA and had the Farr office tweak the design (removed the clipper bow, different interior, longer cockpit with LOA 13.9m) - this is known as version 2A. They built 2 yachts, the first with a swing keel (similar to mine) which was shipped to USA and subsequently sold to a West Coast owner. He changed the swing keel for a deeper fixed keel. This is Beach Party, featured in Dashew's Cruising Encylopedia. The Night Train was Smith's second build, this time with a Scheel Keel. She was also shipped to USA for boat show display, but did not sell so was brought back to NZ. She had the name SKP in the 90's and I understand made multiple island passages, especially to Vanuatu. She was bought by an Australian from Lord Howe Is in 2000 who renamed her The Night Train. Next owner was a mate of IT's from Mana who later had the Scheel keel swapped for a Bakewell White designed Tee keel in prep for a shot at the Single Handed Trans Tasman. But this never came off and according to IT, TNT had issues getting into Mana due to her draft. She has sold again and is based top end of the Sth Island. The final yacht, also to design 2A, is Mustang Sally. She was built in Melbourne for offshore racing and launched as Morning Mist. Warren Batt (current owner) bought her in the early 90's, renamed her and has clocked up a huge mileage including a circumnavigation, several Sydney Hobarts, Whangarei Noumea race , sailed from NZ to Thailand and back via Perth over period 2014-19. Currently based at Gulf Harbour and for sale. Only downside to her is her 10' draft tee keel, which while making her a very stiff powerful yacht has obvious cruising limitations. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Black Panther 1,765 Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 Alternatively have a good think about a solid dodger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John B 113 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 On 29/11/2020 at 9:57 AM, marinheiro said: more or less, I refer to them as cousin's rather than true sister ships. Mine (Comfort Zone) was to the original design but stretched and there is a second one off the same moulds that to my knowledge has never been launched, I believe still in a shed in Avondale. Interestingly quite a few of her drawings including the lines plan were drawn by Roger Hill in his role as Farr's chief draftsman. Alan Smith/Smith's boat yard Whangarei decided to build these for export to USA and had the Farr office tweak the design (removed the clipper bow, different interior, longer cockpit with LOA 13.9m) - this is known as version 2A. They built 2 yachts, the first with a swing keel (similar to mine) which was shipped to USA and subsequently sold to a West Coast owner. He changed the swing keel for a deeper fixed keel. This is Beach Party, featured in Dashew's Cruising Encylopedia. The Night Train was Smith's second build, this time with a Scheel Keel. She was also shipped to USA for boat show display, but did not sell so was brought back to NZ. She had the name SKP in the 90's and I understand made multiple island passages, especially to Vanuatu. She was bought by an Australian from Lord Howe Is in 2000 who renamed her The Night Train. Next owner was a mate of IT's from Mana who later had the Scheel keel swapped for a Bakewell White designed Tee keel in prep for a shot at the Single Handed Trans Tasman. But this never came off and according to IT, TNT had issues getting into Mana due to her draft. She has sold again and is based top end of the Sth Island. The final yacht, also to design 2A, is Mustang Sally. She was built in Melbourne for offshore racing and launched as Morning Mist. Warren Batt (current owner) bought her in the early 90's, renamed her and has clocked up a huge mileage including a circumnavigation, several Sydney Hobarts, Whangarei Noumea race , sailed from NZ to Thailand and back via Perth over period 2014-19. Currently based at Gulf Harbour and for sale. Only downside to her is her 10' draft tee keel, which while making her a very stiff powerful yacht has obvious cruising limitations. Great info thanks.TNT is in Kerikeri now since late 18, I was on board having a look a couple of weeks ago and we were at the owners house on Sunday. He has the drawings and she's listed as #92. We were discussing the other one, I saw her in that shed more Henderson way a few years ago it's a storage facility for boats. I don't know the name. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
marinheiro 364 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 9 hours ago, John B said: We were discussing the other one, I saw her in that shed more Henderson way a few years ago it's a storage facility for boats. I don't know the name. That was Comfort Zone in the Te Atatu shed, she sat there for 9 years, 2006-2014 while I was in Sth America Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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