wheels 543 Posted February 24, 2022 Author Share Posted February 24, 2022 Looking at the picture of "Greg", I thought yikes. Grant, same thoughts about it being a Barge. I couldn't think what the heck the guy was referring to in relation to "Bee Barge" though. But he seemed to be suggesting two different group sizes. I went hunting for that "Add" to read it again, but couldn't find it. I though maybe someone here might recognise some detail in it the rest of us don't. Oh well, as you say, the muppets are going to cross no matter what. It's a pity the weather is looking reasonable for today. But it will be a different story for anyone going across Saturday and Sunday. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Psyche 707 Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Why does this not surprise me? When I see pirate flags in this context although I know it's all campy fun I wonder if these people realise that pirates are killers, not freedom fighters Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Island Time 1,278 Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 IMO, as a commercial skipper, this would be viewed by MNZ as commercial. Skipper would need more than SRL 24m, or a cook strait AND passenger endorsements. Likely require a 500 ton Master with towing cert. Vessel would need to be in survey for the number of passengers. Looking at the pic above, no way thats in survey. Same for the skipper I suspect. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Black Panther 1,670 Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 BTW thanks everyone for keeping this thread "clean" . There are certainly people who hold strong opinions on other aspects of this thread ( myself included) but this is not the place. Again, thank you. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Psyche 707 Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 If they want to do it then it's really no big deal provided everyone knows whats its about and they are consenting adults, the skipper is ultimately responsible. Clearly its not being done for commercial gain and the rules are there to stop unlicensed operators and unsafe vessels plying a trade, so although it could technically be prosecuted I am not sure the authorities would bother. Where I draw the line is when people naïvely embark possibly with kids thinking they have the security of MNZ commercial regs to rely on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Island Time 1,278 Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, Psyche said: If they want to do it then it's really no big deal provided everyone knows whats its about and they are consenting adults, the skipper is ultimately responsible. Clearly its not being done for commercial gain and the rules are there to stop unlicensed operators and unsafe vessels plying a trade, so although it could technically be prosecuted I am not sure the authorities would bother. Where I draw the line is when people naïvely embark possibly with kids thinking they have the security of MNZ commercial regs to rely on. Anyone who charges is REQUIRED to be registered in an survey. $35 pp is charging... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Psyche 707 Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Island Time said: Anyone who charges is REQUIRED to be registered in an survey. $35 pp is charging... I am trying to look at it from another point of view and without the context of the protest. No way would I get on board lets put it that way! Are you saying that they have now set a fixed fee and not a "koha" that changes it completely. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aardvarkash10 1,055 Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 If it is a working boat (fishing, barge towing or similar looks and sounds most likely) it would fall into the scope of the HS@W Act as well, regardless of whether people were being charged or service was being provided for free. Plenty of scope under the act for charges in the event of an accident of any sort. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Psyche 707 Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 And the skipper is responsible no matter what Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aardvarkash10 1,055 Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 51 minutes ago, Psyche said: And the skipper is responsible no matter what and the owner if its a different person. And any deckie. Social media is referring to the encampment in Picton as "Dumbkirk" based on the reality that many turned up unvaxxed and unmasked and then wondered why legit ferry services refused them. For those choosing to make use of these free "services" the name seems appropriate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wheels 543 Posted February 24, 2022 Author Share Posted February 24, 2022 Psyche, the thread has got confusing in that there are now two seperate boats or sailings being discussed. This "Greg" and the original Bee Barge or whatever the heck it is. I think the Bee Barge is sailing across today. Anyone in Picton today that might be able to go take a look and a photo?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
grant 44 Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 3 hours ago, wheels said: Psyche, the thread has got confusing in that there are now two separate boats or sailings being discussed. This "Greg" and the original Bee Barge or whatever the heck it is. I think the Bee Barge is sailing across today. Anyone in Picton today that might be able to go take a look and a photo?? I looked back through various posts and the reference to the Bee Barge was originally by a bee keeper apparently in the north island. On his page the closest thing to a barge was a pontoon with a dozen bee hives on it, the name fits but nothing else does..... Today we seem to have had a launch and a yacht (maybe 2), reasonably quite flotilla Quote Link to post Share on other sites
eruptn 98 Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 TVNZ news has shown at least one boat arriving in Wgn today. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
splashprincess 20 Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 And 4 yacht crossed Cook Strait over the weekend - but not to protest, for the Central Triangle! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
grant 44 Posted February 28, 2022 Share Posted February 28, 2022 10 hours ago, splashprincess said: And 4 yacht crossed Cook Strait over the weekend - but not to protest, for the Central Triangle! yep got told about them, took one look at AIS and it was 'yeah, nah wrong crowd " Looking forward to seeing them leave on Friday Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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