nz moth 0 Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Dose anyone know if these are any good? http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing ... =564365595 Link to post Share on other sites
AGC 0 Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Can't tell you about the specific item but we use an iPad2 with iSailor in the cockpit and it's as good for detail and accuracy as the Garmin chartplotter. And no you don't need to have network access. Sorry probably no help at all Link to post Share on other sites
OYSTR 1 Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Can't tell you about the specific item but we use an iPad2 with iSailor in the cockpit and it's as good for detail and accuracy as the Garmin chartplotter. And no you don't need to have network access.Sorry probably no help at all I use the iPad as well (needs to be 3G version with GPS) but with the Navionics app which is excellent as well. Have it set up in a Talon mount under the dodger. Again, not much help re the Android tablet, except to say that you need to be confident in/trust the hardware and software you get. Link to post Share on other sites
AGC 0 Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 except to say that you need to be confident in/trust the hardware and software you get. Had it next to the Garmin for a day and it seemed pretty good, the diff was ~1m max. Link to post Share on other sites
OYSTR 1 Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 except to say that you need to be confident in/trust the hardware and software you get. Had it next to the Garmin for a day and it seemed pretty good, the diff was ~1m max. Yep, I've found the iPad (and iPhone) to be pretty spot on. Apple get a lot of sh*t for being a locked down system, but at least as a result they can say it works. Link to post Share on other sites
Deep Purple 514 Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Cat 1,2,3 require a "mounted" gps. Not sure if that extends to an iThingy in a plastic bag taped to a bulkhead or similar. It would probably do as a backup GPS for Cat 1.2 Link to post Share on other sites
Vorpal Blade 89 Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Ive had one of these for over a year now and it seems OK, the accuracy is pretty good when compared to the Garmin. My one bluetooths with my phone to become a hands free device, can hold music, photos etc if you want and seems Ok, the battery life isnt terrific so make sure you get a 12V lighter plug kit for it. The only issues I have with it are that it can sometimes be a bit hard to see in full daytime glare and the average kiwi index finger is a bit fat to make the touch screen scrolling for different charts etc a bit hit and miss sometimes, a stylus is supplied but the kids usually lose them within the first 24 hours of the packet being opened. Link to post Share on other sites
Kiteroa 8 Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 I've had a tablet based plotter for a while now. Seems to be very good. Downsides are it's not water resistant and I can't figure out how to get a projected heading line on the screen. Otherwise, it was $290 well spent. Charts are excellent. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 We have Toughbook tablets for those looking for a bit of grunt. Android based from 1600ish, Windows 8 bells and whistles 3kish depending on waterproofing, processors 3g etc. New model NZ release weeks away. Contact me at Safety at Sea Link to post Share on other sites
philstar 61 Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 i thought long and hard about a tablet vs a dedicated chart plotter. Tablet had alot going for it as it could be used for lots of other things. however. at the end of the day I went for a dedicated mounted waterproof chartplotter. when you really need a plotter its usually dark, you might be dragging an anchor, its blowing its nuts off or you're trying to finish a simrad and get home etc. The dedicated plotter is right in the cotpit, its wired to the battery so won't go flat, all you need to do is turn it on, no booting up and starting apps etc and you can see it in daylight. beats a tablet hands down I reckon. I got a second hand garmin off trade me for $300 and its been awesome. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Carry both - smallish Garmin 65 colour plotter which is usually fine + iPad with Ipx7 hard case and Navionics HD. With the bigger screen the iPad is more like a mobile chart table in the cockpit. In saying that the chart is always folded to the right section and baged in the cockpit so I can do a 3 way check against them all. Link to post Share on other sites
Chewing Gum 17 Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 We have a Lowrance 7 inch plotter/sounder using navionics software and mounted at the wheel. It is a rugged, reliable piece of kit about 5 years old now and also finds fish. I wouldn't swap it for any type of tablet. Link to post Share on other sites
philstar 61 Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 why would you want to find fish??? He's usually on that great lump of kauri that won the barfoot and thompson series Link to post Share on other sites
Tim C 23 Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Can't tell you about the specific item but we use an iPad2 with iSailor in the cockpit and it's as good for detail and accuracy as the Garmin chartplotter. And no you don't need to have network access.Sorry probably no help at all I use the iPad as well (needs to be 3G version with GPS) but with the Navionics app which is excellent as well. Have it set up in a Talon mount under the dodger. Again, not much help re the Android tablet, except to say that you need to be confident in/trust the hardware and software you get. I have struggled to get a straight answer about this from anyone selling these... Why does the iPad need to be the 3G version? Surely the 'Maps' app works on any iPad via GPS without the 3G network, so shouldn't Navionics or similar work? Has anyone got the lower spec iPad in use on GPS only onboard? Link to post Share on other sites
OYSTR 1 Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Can't tell you about the specific item but we use an iPad2 with iSailor in the cockpit and it's as good for detail and accuracy as the Garmin chartplotter. And no you don't need to have network access.Sorry probably no help at all I use the iPad as well (needs to be 3G version with GPS) but with the Navionics app which is excellent as well. Have it set up in a Talon mount under the dodger. Again, not much help re the Android tablet, except to say that you need to be confident in/trust the hardware and software you get. I have struggled to get a straight answer about this from anyone selling these... Why does the iPad need to be the 3G version? Surely the 'Maps' app works on any iPad via GPS without the 3G network, so shouldn't Navionics or similar work? Has anyone got the lower spec iPad in use on GPS only onboard? Only the 3G+wifi model has the GPS chip in it. I believe the wifi only version will "work" if tethered to an iPhone or similar with a GPS chip but this won't be as accurate (it may use aGPS which I think just estimates location based on proximity of cellular towers). Link to post Share on other sites
Deep Purple 514 Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 The 3g iPad has a GPS chip. The Non-3g iPad doesn't have the GPS chip. You don't need to be hooked up to a 3g provider or even have a sim card in it. The GPS chip is stand-alone but it's only in the 3g model Link to post Share on other sites
Deep Purple 514 Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 p.s it would appear the remaining iPad 2 models left for sale in NZ don't have the GPS chip either (refer "cellular and wireless" features) http://www.apple.com/nz/ipad/compare/ Link to post Share on other sites
OYSTR 1 Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 They sometimes come up as refurbs, which are good deals as they are individually checked over and come with Apple one year warranty. Only 64gb versions there at the mo so $$$ http://store.apple.com/nz/browse/home/specialdeals/ipad Link to post Share on other sites
Island Time 1,252 Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Ok. I'm looking at several options for my new online store. As I see it, the issue with a tablet is that while ok for nav, it does not easily receive the data from the boats instruments. Yes I know it can, with the addition of a wifi capable device accepting NMEA. As mentioned, it also needs to be charged.... I was thinking for a basic system, of a small, low power laptop, like the acer aspire one interfaced to the instruments, running open CPN. Can add radar, external waterprrof sceen in cockpit, AIS etc as required. How many of you use, or would like to use a tablet? David I hope it's ok to ask this here - if not, give me a yell and well sort something out... Thanks Matt Link to post Share on other sites
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