SeaEagleii 1 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 What the max weather you would going sailing single handed in a 727? Wave hight? Wind speed? Off shore? To great barrier? Cruise ability ? Max speeds? What does it compare to? Link to post Share on other sites
NXRIDE 0 Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 I've done a lot of sailing in a Farr 727 and I rate it very high for a simple boat to single hand, even in high winds/waves. Most of what I have done has been crewed harbour racing or 2 handed cruising, but in 30kts plus it became a very competitive boat, even against 1020s etc, while everyone else is getting over powered the lil 727 powers through, and is very controllable in 1-2m+ waves. Cruising on them is good for 2-3 people max. Think of it much like camping though. Speeds, can hold 5kts upwind, down wind we have seen 11-12 with a kite, previous owner had it up to 14-15. Very nice boat to sail and very controllable. Get a lil tiller pilot and I would single hand it any day! Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 A well found and set up 727 will break after you would I'd expect Sash. I can't see any good reason why one couldn't go offshore. Great boats that are commonly under rated. Link to post Share on other sites
Optional Extra 0 Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Sounds like you should have a look at Optional Extra http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing ... =796918421 Link to post Share on other sites
waikiore 399 Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Re offshore in a 727, might pay to check up on your history, Zap capsized off Devonport and we got a launch to right her, and the two separate capsizes in Aussie that resulted in drownings did happen.Just saying.... Link to post Share on other sites
khayyam 68 Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 we loved ours. great little boats. i've heard the history but never any indication of that in ours. how did you put zap over? cruising is better if you can find one of the raised cabin (horizon) versions. the only hesitation i would have about rough conditions is how your outboard is setup, and if you can keep the prop in the water when it's really nasty. but that's true of any outboard boat, of course. Link to post Share on other sites
Optional Extra 0 Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Re offshore in a 727, might pay to check up on your history, Zap capsized off Devonport and we got a launch to right her, and the two separate capsizes in Aussie that resulted in drownings did happen.Just saying.... That is only because Zap is under the class weight, hence the lead bricks bolted inside her. Link to post Share on other sites
waikiore 399 Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 True, However the keel is standard weight, so righting moment if anything better. Link to post Share on other sites
wal 27 Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Re offshore in a 727, might pay to check up on your history, Zap capsized off Devonport and we got a launch to right her, and the two separate capsizes in Aussie that resulted in drownings did happen.Just saying.... That is only because Zap is under the class weight, hence the lead bricks bolted inside her. Hey it's only a measly little drum of resin light. Plus we didn't use 1" mahogany for the stairs - or tiller - or anything else We tipped it on it's side one day in no breeze - just stood 4 burly men on the rail. The leaked batter acid didn't do the No 1 any good tho, totally delaminated it Link to post Share on other sites
wal 27 Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Bugger - where's the edit button? That's BATTERY , not a floury mixture Link to post Share on other sites
Black Panther 1,584 Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Nothing wrong with pancakes and maple syrup. Link to post Share on other sites
Crocket 12 Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Please, somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but my experience with the little boats tipping over and sinking has always been because water has got down below when they tip. Even broaching these boats can end bad if the hatches are open (J24s would have to be the best at this trick.) Small boats will always get knocked down quicker and easier than the larger ones, but keep the hatches closed and go hard. I could think of worse boats to go offshore in. (Sailed wisely of course) Link to post Share on other sites
Quarter Pint 0 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Yes, a 727 is good in a blow but the front hatch is the weakness. Strongly suggest it's closed tightly outside harbour! Link to post Share on other sites
johnMi 2 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 One of the nicest boats I've had for Singlehanded sailing was my F242 Trimaran, and they can't sink. Link to post Share on other sites
PaulR 3 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Max Speeds??? We did 10knots under a poled out headsail & reef on a nice surf once between North Head and Torpedeo Wharf, quite stable and easy to steer with a lovely humming vibration. Just caught the wave right!! Max Wind. After one Simrad we finished under main alone and had problems later in 40+ knots trying to motor to Westhaven (long shaft outboard prop lifting out of water), needed to rehoist double reefed main to make any sort of headway; rather than just going from Navy base to Container wharf several times. Link to post Share on other sites
khayyam 68 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 certainly can be easier to sail than to motor, in a blow. definitely need the two reef points. Link to post Share on other sites
PaulR 3 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Great Barrier? Yes the GB Island would be no problem and many have done that already many times. Also many 727's have raced around the gulf and coastal races & voyages. In any boat, pick the weather and all is good, simple and safe. However the GB Reef could be a different story. Would you want to be in a hurricane / tropical depression in one I would prefer something bigger IMHO and experience In Small boats one is knocked around by the waves. In BIG boats one is knocked around by the gear. Link to post Share on other sites
PaulR 3 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Yes 10 knots but I was the only one who could see the dial. The other two were quite useless lookouts !!! Link to post Share on other sites
bushman 12 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 i am amazed how people get worried about going distances in smallish keelers , best you talk to those crazy types who sail 3500 miles in 6.5 m boates , we had our piedies from the merc s to whangaroa via the outside of the barrier never thought twice about it , did the same and more in 1/4 tonners , it comes down to seamanship or seapersonship as we should say these days . Link to post Share on other sites
Black Panther 1,584 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Happi , go to the library and read a couple of books by Andrew Fagan. On is Swirly World in Perpetuity, can't remember the other title. Link to post Share on other sites
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