erice 732 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Saturday: Luna Rossa vs Ineos Team UK – 4pm start Sunday: Ineos Team UK vs Luna Rossa – 4pm start (if required).ie if LR win Sat. race Weather permitting, spectator-friendly Course C will likely use every race day for the rest of the regatta, meaning fans on dry land will be able to get good views of the action from a number of spots in the city. "It became obvious to me, being here and living the winds, dealing with this on a daily basis, there's a very good area on Course C," Director Iain Murray said. The Course will be expanded, allowing Murray to tailor each day's racing to the wind. The move met with the approval of Luna Rossa's Jimmy Spithill. "From a sailor's point of view, we like being on that course cos it's like a stadium." https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/sport/other/new-rules-introduced-in-wake-american-magics-prada-cup-capsize Quote Link to post Share on other sites
waikiore 399 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Ah the precious fellows, (We dont like waves or getting wet all the time when sailing), result course A canned. We are really moving away from real yachting the course that could have been used from almost any wind direction scrubbed primarily because they are scared of loosing more competitors. I guess we shouldnt be surprised it is the AC after all not real yachting like SSANZ or Vendee 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ex Elly 197 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Course C is better for the spectators, but not for the sailors - wild winds shifts, or a one way track. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
erice 732 Posted January 23, 2021 Author Share Posted January 23, 2021 what a race! ineos win, even with being unable to play the cunningham, so they get the 'immunity pin' no race tomorrow and the italians need to find more speed 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
harrytom 642 Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Do these guys have different rules to normal rules?? UK being on port last leg yet italy seem to alter course to leeward? I always thought you must hold course. Well done team UK. Close racing I have seen might start to get more interest in these yachts now. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Romany 162 Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 I thought that LRs subtle course change to leeward verged on 'hunting' but anyway ultimately too little too late and I'd guess RO saw thru that little pantomime. They bore away to make the sudden 'avoidance' look necessary. It is kind of interesting though. At 40plus knots a collision is carastrophic, perhaps fatal - and so maybe they need to have zone protection similar to mark rounding. Perhaps they do? Anybody with rules knowledge? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
harrytom 642 Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Yesterday the race made a new rule.That a competitor could delay race by 15 minutes for gear adjustments. UK took that advantage to make boom adjustment for the wind? Today reported that the new rule is no longer in play.Would the Italians now have right to redress,if UK hadnt of made adjustments would they of come 2nd?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
erice 732 Posted January 23, 2021 Author Share Posted January 23, 2021 this was discussed well on the youtube livecast apparently the rule that any competitor could delay a start ONCE in that series was already there but no one had used it youtube was following the boats coms and we could hear the ineos crew complaining that they were losing hydraulic pressure even when nothing was happening, during the wind delays they traced the issue to a damaged downhaul system so they used their one 15min delay card to isolate the hydraulic leak and manually lock the downhaul in 1 position so prada had an advantage even before the start but made too many minor mistakes to capitalise on ineous's partially crippled main 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aardvarkash10 959 Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Simlar to the situation when NZ was 8-1 a few years back... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vivaldi 53 Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 16 hours ago, harrytom said: Do these guys have different rules to normal rules?? UK being on port last leg yet italy seem to alter course to leeward? I always thought you must hold course. Well done team UK. Close racing I have seen might start to get more interest in these yachts now. Yes you are allowed to ‘hunt’ in match racing, so bearing down to leeward to seek a penalty is allowed. They just weren’t close enough really. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Romany 162 Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Thanks Vivaldi - it sort of makes sense that they would allow it. If u have enough gas in the tank to be close enough to draw a penalty then fair digs give it a go. Still - impressive nerves of steel from Ineos, LRs bluff just didnt faze them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
waikiore 399 Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 Learnt a bit from viewing on the water Saturday, the coverage is very delayed at the start but through the race appeared to catch up a little, even though we were on a luxury launch the view from North Head is superior (of course C) particularly of the tactics and gusts with lifts and knocks readily apparent. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
harrytom 642 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Will American Magic be ready?? https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/sport/435122/it-s-a-big-ask-odds-stacked-against-american-magic-expert Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AJ Oliver 154 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 So did it come down to two bad tacks by LR ?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Romany 162 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 bigger balls. Ainslie has 'em. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
erice 732 Posted January 26, 2021 Author Share Posted January 26, 2021 now back in the water for prada 4 - semi finals and presumably a solid day of testing electronics/controls tomorrow 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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